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  1. Flintlock1640

    Odd probably French musket

    because as it is it shouldn't exist. I've never heard of a French musket that between models used parts from a previous one. I'm trying to see if anyone on here knows about any other transitional models like this so I know if this was built this way or was a period modification (for instance is...
  2. Flintlock1640

    Odd probably French musket

    Now notice how the 1774 trigger guard is identical to the 1777 in the front but differs in that it is one piece, has no finger ridges, and ends in a point.
  3. Flintlock1640

    Odd probably French musket

    Just to clarify a bit more I want you all to see how this musket started being built as a 1774 and was updated. Notice how the side plate on the 1774 is more S shaped. This is visible in the side plate mortice. You can see how it was changed.
  4. Flintlock1640

    Odd probably French musket

    Of course they did. I have a Liege contract short land. The Belgian marks are very different then. I've seen later Belgian Besses with just the ELG for a late India Pattern. That doesn't explain why you'll occasionally come across a British make musket with British proofs but also later added...
  5. Flintlock1640

    Odd probably French musket

    I suspect it was just to reconvert to flintlock from percussion. I don't really know it came to me that way.
  6. Flintlock1640

    Odd probably French musket

    I will gladly believe it is if you can find any kind of proof that the Belgians ever made anything similar to this. Every Belgian copy I've seen has features dissimilar to the French musket. I agree about the Belgian ELG being a proof mark. When arms went to Belgium they were reprooved. It does...
  7. Flintlock1640

    Odd probably French musket

    I bought this with the double barrel I sold thinking it was a 1777. Now I'm not so certain but it could be more interesting. The side plate, butt plate, stock and barrel band all look 1777. The trigger guard is similar but is one piece instead of two and has no finger ridges. Barrel has a pin...
  8. Flintlock1640

    OLD original barrels - what to build?

    If you want to try something a little different, that octagon would be cool with my early Spanish/Roman style miquelet ca 1640s
  9. Flintlock1640

    SOLD Antique double barrel percussion shotgun ca 1850s

    I'm sorry I upset y'all with this good deal. I know I could have probably held out for a bit more but I bought this and another gun for $200 including shipping and I really bid on it for the other gun so I was pleased to be able to give someone else a good deal and get back half my money. :)
  10. Flintlock1640

    SOLD Antique double barrel percussion shotgun ca 1850s

    Sold thanks!
  11. Flintlock1640

    SOLD Antique double barrel percussion shotgun ca 1850s

    Nice wall hanger as it is with potential to be a good project for shooting. I believe it is 12 gauge but measuring it without a caliper I was right around .75 so it could be 10 gauge, but probably 12. I have no idea why the upper piece between the barrels (I knew the wood until I started writing...
  12. Flintlock1640

    My new Flintlock Smoothbore need Help

    1800 give or take 10 years
  13. Flintlock1640

    1728 French Lock?

    Yours has been messed with so it is hard to say what it was originally. The lock is 1728. To the right of the side plate you can see where the sling swivel went through the side from the lock so without question this is either a 1717 with the wrong lock or the 1728. The 1717 did not have barrel...
  14. Flintlock1640

    1728 French Lock?

    It looks to me like a 1754 lock. The pan on those is deeper than on the 1728. These locks will have the maker's initials outside the Fleur de lis. I'm not familiar with those initials.
  15. Flintlock1640

    Forensic Identification for Flintlock Remains

    or depending on the amount of rust you may have nothing left lol
  16. Flintlock1640

    Forensic Identification for Flintlock Remains

    as far as a vinegar bath doesn't vinegar take off patina? I think the barrel looks great the way it is. Rough but showing it's 250+ year history.
  17. Flintlock1640

    Forensic Identification for Flintlock Remains

    True, now that I think about it the Dutch Type II has a bayonet lug on the bottom and has a sight on top like that. I bet it's Dutch. Don't know why I didn't think about it before. It's been messed with so that the tang is beaten up and the rings at the breech are barely visible but it fits...
  18. Flintlock1640

    Forensic Identification for Flintlock Remains

    no that's a bayonet lug without question. I would take pictures of the breech from different sides to see if there are additional marks underneath
  19. Flintlock1640

    Forensic Identification for Flintlock Remains

    By chance is there more than one? It reminds me of the braized edge of a ramrod pipe when it is directly attached to the barrel. could be that the barrel is not original to the stock and the tang is in a new position (that could explain the bayonet lug being down instead of up)
  20. Flintlock1640

    Forensic Identification for Flintlock Remains

    the barrel caliber. Diameter of the inside.
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