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    Hoppe's labeling change ???

    As the OP for this thread I'd like to try and clear up a couple of points. I have some othe original 9 Plus Bore Cleaner and Patch Lubricant. It is in the white squeeze bottle and is very creamy consistency ( pictue hand lotion ). I also just received 4 bottles of the current offering from...
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    Hoppe's labeling change ???

    Baxter, that's been my experience also. They all, old to new, carry the same product number.
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    Any experience w/October Countries black riflemans bag?

    Sorry I can't speak for the particular bag, but I've been using one of their bags for at least 35 years. Great quality and workmanship.
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    Hoppe's labeling change ???

    I checked on their website and this is the only product for black powder. Funny thing is the picture on Hoppes website has a,different label. The stuff I just received today has a label that says Traditional and then states Black Powder Gun Bore Cleaner. Nowhere on the label, front or back...
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    Hoppe's labeling change ???

    I just received the 4 bottles that I ordered last week. And now I'm really confused. It says on the bottle that it's a black powder bore cleaner. But nowhere does it state patch lubricant. Jeez, if I only had bought a case of the old stuff so many years ago.
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    Hoppe's labeling change ???

    I have 2 partial bottles of the older 9 Plus. Both are of the white squeeze bottle variety. However the consistency is very different in each. One is a very thin liquid and the other is a creamy liquid. I must have purchased these at two different time periods. I much prefer the creamy stuff...
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    Hoppe's labeling change ???

    EC121 - I just ordered 4 bottles from Midway. The picture on their website did not have "Plus" on the label but did say Black Powder etc... Hence my question.
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    Hoppe's labeling change ???

    I haven't used Hoppes 9 Plus in a long time, poor decision on my part, as it is truly excellent patch lube. I had a old batch of it in my stash, the kind with the white squeeze bottle, that I started using again. I noticed this older container says "9 Plus" on it. While the current tall...
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    The ongoing saga of my new flintlock.

    Was able to get the new rifle out again today. Since I couldn't find any new Hoppes #9 Plus yesterday I used my old batch of 9 Plus that I had on hand. Following are the loads that I used today. .350 Hornady ball, .018 bulk pillow ticking patch. 9 Plus patch lube, 40 gr. 3F Goex. .358 cast...
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    The ongoing saga of my new flintlock.

    I went to 5 different places today in search of some Hoppes 9 Plus with no luck. I have a partial bottle of it from a long time ago that I'll probably try out. Plus an unopened bottle of Lehigh Valley patch lube and Wonder Lube 2000 that I'll also try. I'll keep looking for some 9 Plus because I...
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    The ongoing saga of my new flintlock.

    The more I think about it the more I'm coming to agree that it's a lube problem. I never noticed it in my Ted Fellows percussion 36 because I always run a patch after a shot which is preventing any build up of fouling. But with this new flintlock I've stopped swabbing since that may have been...
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    The ongoing saga of my new flintlock.

    Yes I normally wipe the bore when shooting the Ted Fellows 36. But due to concerns over ignition problems I followed some advice here and have not been wiping between shots on my new rifle. I have about 60 to 70 shots through the new rifle.
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    The ongoing saga of my new flintlock.

    I recovered some of the .018 patches a few days ago and they looked fine. Today I looked for some of the .015 and .010 patches but did not find any. ( There's alot of ground clutter on our range ) I was doing a 80 % barrel clean every 4 to 5 shots. Plan on picking up some Hoppes number 9 plus...
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    The ongoing saga of my new flintlock.

    Howdy gents I'm back again in the pursuit of more knowledge. As some of you may remember I've had a couple of threads related to this rifle. Before I start allow me to add this refresher. I'm not new to shooting muzzleloader rifles, have about 40 years into them But I am new to flintlocks...
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    Flash but no bang.

    Thanks for all the advice guys. This morning I had a small window of time to shoot again. Following Zonie's advice on wiping I shot 6 shots that all went bang on the first prime. My habit of wiping between shots is a carry over from my percussion rifles. I never run into problems of any kind...
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    Flash but no bang.

    Thanks for the information so far guys. To answer a couple of recent questions. Yes I was wiping between shots. Using a patch wet with M-A-W followed by 2 dry patches. The barrel is a Colerain with a vent liner. This morning I'm going to attempt to thoroughly clean the breech area. The position...
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    Flash but no bang.

    I am using real black powder, 3f for both the main charge and the prime. I do feel the vent hole is on the small side. But having no experience in such matters ????? Without measuring it most definitely is smaller then 1/16. Probably closer to 1/32 if that big. No the first shot took 4 primes...
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    Flash but no bang.

    Hi guys. I've been out this afternoon with my flintlock for its initial shooting session and I'm having a problem. A little of my background first. I've been shooting percussion rifles for approximately 40 years but this is my first flintlock. The rifle is a semi custom 36 caliber. I'm getting...
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    Poor inleting of lock.

    Thanks for the compliments guys. I'm out in the woods for the first shooting session right now. I've been shooting percussion rifles for almost 40 years but this is my first flintlock. Getting flash but no bang some of the time. Definitely a learning curve going from caps to rocks, haha.
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    Poor inleting of lock.

    Here's 2 pics. 42 inch swamped barrel. 36 caliber. All steel has a aged finish.
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