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    Mystery maker on Northwest Trade Gun?

    HISTORICAL SOCIETY SEEKS TO PURCHASE RARE MUSKET Bristol Press, pages 8-10 - 1977, by James Klaneski[/b] BURLINGTON: The Burlington Historical Society has organized a special drive to raise money for the purchase of a rare flintlock musket manufactured here between 1808 and 1812. Members of the...
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    Mystery maker on Northwest Trade Gun?

    Hi All, I came across some new information that may provide some better idea on the history of this old gun, I came across on Gunbroker.com an ad for a current auction on a M1808 US Contract Flintlock Musket by Ethan Stillman, Burlington, Connecticut, .69 cal smoothbore, mfg. 1808-1812. The...
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    Mystery maker on Northwest Trade Gun?

    zimmerstutzen, Brilliant job in solving the question that had me stumped on the origin of the lock for days in just a matter of minutes. To better educate myself, can you tell me what are the key factors that clued you in that it was a Golcher lock. From what I know of the history of the...
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    Mystery maker on Northwest Trade Gun?

    Hi All, In my search for an authentic Indian trade gun I came across a gun that looks and feels legitimate to me. The problem is it so beat to hell that I am having a tough time determining the origins on this old gun. I thought some of the experts on the forum might have some ideas on the...
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    Indian Trade Gun???

    Rod, Thanks for the suggestion. I have sent photos and background information to the Museum of the Fur Trade. If I get a response from them, I will be sure to post it on the forum. Thanks, Matt
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    Indian Trade Gun???

    Gentlemen, Thanks to all for your comments and good information. I have since found out some further information and have additional photos to share. I originally thought for certain the barrel was made by Wilson, but after reading Rod's comments, I did some further research. I found a pair...
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    Indian Trade Gun???

    Hi MacRob, Following up on your comments on the possible Wilson barrel on this gun, I found a couple of new pieces of information today. I found in an article by Dewitt Bailey on the The Wilsons: Gunmakers to Empire 1732-1832". After seeing MacRob's post I wondered if the *RW mark on the...
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    Indian Trade Gun???

    Hi All, I have been seeking to purchase an Indian trade musket of the correct type and era as may have been used by the Native American tribes in the Northwest Territory and lower Canada that were led by Tecumseh in the time period preceding and during the War of 1812. I came across the...
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    Question on gunlock maker

    Graham, Thanks for your input on this. I had been able to find some information on some Ohio longrifles made in the 1840s with locks from this maker. However, I had not been able to find anything before that, so your information on the Ontario/upper Canada made rifles with locks from this...
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    Question on gunlock maker

    I just came across an old longrifle I suspect was made in Ohio or Indiana and which I am looking to learn more about. There is no gunmaker's name on the barrel, but I have been able to make out on the gunlock the name of the company that imported the lock. That name is Sheldon Phelps & Co. I...
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    Left handed flintlock recommendations

    Thanks a lot of the Late Lancaster link at TVA. I think that is about the perfect gun for what I am seeking. I was hoping to stay below $1,000 but the TVA arms are more reasonably priced than what I would have expected for something of that quality.
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    Left handed flintlock recommendations

    Hi All, I would like to get a full stock flintlock rifle for use in hunting and target shooting. The only left-handed rifle I have been able to find currently made is the Lyman Great Plains Rifle. As I have had my heart set on a full stock Pennsylvania style rifle, the Lyman is not really...
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    Native American 1812 era Brown Bess?

    bpd303, Thanks for your thoughts. As far as the cost of the musket -- let's just say that I hope my wife never finds the receipt for what I paid. I took your advice and laid the facts out in a polite e-mail to the dealer this evening asking him to stand behind the product he sells. The...
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    Native American 1812 era Brown Bess?

    Rod, All good points. The point about buyer beware is probably the best point of all! I think you and LaBonte make a good case that one cannot definitively rule out that this musket may have had a second life late in the later 1800s with an owner that put the nail trim on for his own...
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    Native American 1812 era Brown Bess?

    Well folks -- it's a fraud. Phil was 100% right on this item from the get go. I will learn from this and not be such a sucker for a good story the next time. :headslap: I contacted a lab we work with in the furniture manufacturing business we operate and use to do quality testing on the...
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    Native American 1812 era Brown Bess?

    Rod, Many thanks for the possible idea on the item being sold off second hand and being used long after the war in the fur trade. That is definitely one plausible explanation that I had not considered. What I have done so far is remove one nail that was already a bit loose to see how it was...
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    Native American 1812 era Brown Bess?

    Phil, My comment about regimental markings was not in reference to this specific musket but a general comment to the effect that it takes a lot of detective work to try to get a clear idea on the history of a firearm unless the weapon has regimental markings or perhaps was dug from an actual...
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    Would you consider this modified Rev. War pistol accurate?

    Wes/Tex and Alden, Many thanks for your insights. I am within the time period during which I can still return the pistol to the dealer and get a refund, and I have done so. I am out some shipping costs, but I guess that will just remind me to do my homework BEFORE the purchase next name...
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    Native American 1812 era Brown Bess?

    Phil, Your point is taken on the incorrect usage of rifle for musket. I am well aware of the difference but past 11:00pm my brain and fingers tend to have different ideas on what to write sometimes. Attached is the section from the best resource I have found regarding the subject of Native...
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    Native American 1812 era Brown Bess?

    54ball, Thanks for the information on Ft. Prospect. That is a bit of history of which I was never aware. While that history probably has little to do with this particular musket, but I would like to learn more about it. Do you have any books to recommend on Ft. Prospect that you may have...
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