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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    So, the possibility of a "Super Open Top " 45 is a possibility! (I've already talked to folks you would know!!) Mike
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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    Absolutely ( I didn't get THAT offer!! Lol). If one thinks of how a "bolt action" rifle works . . . with lugs . . . Mike
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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    Lol!!! . . . it doesn't. The arbor is completely contained in the barrel assy., it would look just like a Dragoon looks . . . minus the wedge. (Hey, but you're thinking!!!) Mike
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    Uberti short arbor question

    What did you expect to hear? Mike
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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    While I appreciate your interest, the "Magnum " thing isn't gonna happen ( at least on a "belt pistol" platform). I'm only interested in the parameters that are available in the open top revolvers we have available to us. There's no reason to get to 35,000psi. 21,000 is plenty. It's Walt Kirsts...
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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    So if you make the slots bigger, there would be even less material which would make the arbor weaker. The main forces are fore and aft. The wedge needs to be tight fore and aft., not necessarily "precise fit" because it's purpose is to impart tension on that union. The rest of the assembly is...
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    Correcting Uberti Short Arbors?

    But, for folks that want whats "close" to be "correct", there are things you can do . . . Mike
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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    Well, the barrel is supported by being pulled onto the arbor ( why the arbor length is important) with great tension. The barrel lug is " located" on the frame by two pins and yes, is in a compression during firing. That makes it a foundational structure (constant) and is why the arbor length...
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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    Honestly, I thought the "magnum " thing was "tongue in cheek ". No '58 Remington or '60 Army will be a true magnum. My tests were function tests for a product. 21,000 psi with that other powder, using these platforms is more than any would ever see in normal use. I've messed up more...
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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    Of course, since my '60 was/is a test bed for the above mentioned setup, it ( being an Uberti) has a corrected arbor length and since it would be subject to pressures mentioned, the endshake was set at a tight .002" . The endshake will probably be the determining factor of how long an...
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    What are you putting your money on. Draw

    Well, that's actually not true. The wedge is ( becomes) an integral part when installed (driven in) as it is supposed to be. At that point it is as much arbor/barrel assy as either structure when installed. As far as the open top being able to be a "magnum" let's consider (since we're in a...
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    Questions on arbor with new 1851 Uberti London model

    I set them between .0025" - .003". You don't have to slink anywhere. But I will say just in the last couple of months I've explained the whole process several times in a few threads in this forum. I know I sound like a broken record to most here . . . Maybe take a peek at my posts? I know I...
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    Questions on arbor with new 1851 Uberti London model

    You people gotta quit doing that!! It's not a valid test!! Yes, no matter what model it is, if it's anything other than a late made Pietta, it has a short arbor. I must have said that a thousand times by now!! Oh, and put the calipers up, put away the slide rule. It's so simple to fix...
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    Want to purchase an Uberti 1851 Navy, but have some questions

    Yes, I've had a few through the shop but they are flat spring onlys. Not necessarily that that's a bad thing, they just don't lend themselves to a "new" design. So it's a tune them "like they are" thing. Mike
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    Want to purchase an Uberti 1851 Navy, but have some questions

    Yessir!! The Remington is a very nice platform!! As far as the problems go ; 1- they have flat action springs that are prone to break (especially the hand spring). 2- factory timing is typically late. 3- the cylinder base pin allows fouling to collect and bind the cylinder rather quickly. I...
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    Something amiss with Pietta sheriff model.

    That's way too much endshake! What did you do to the arbor? Looks like it's not screwed into the frame enough. Mike
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    Something amiss with Pietta sheriff model.

    I think the biggest problem with that "test" is that it doesn't work on an out of the box example (and it doesn't have to!!). You have to dress the arbor just to do that . . . which means you're removing material that is helping with what you're ultimately trying to accomplish which is...
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    Something amiss with Pietta sheriff model.

    Pictures would help. Action parts don't have anything to do with the endshake (barrel/cylinder clearanc). The arbor is short but the "button" may be too thick. If so, you can dress (sand/file) it down till you get .003" max (.0025" wouldbe perfect!). Make sure the wedge slot in the arbor goes...
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    Who made Lyman 1858's?

    How about a pic of the hammer cam? I don't see much wrong with the bolt. Mike
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    New vintage 1860 Army replicas

    Well, Kirst makes a cylinder for ROA'S but not gated ones. I'm finishing up a gated prototype for Walt so . . . All my ROA'S have conversion cyls in them and they're all tack drivers!! Where I was going with my comment was the particular cylinder mentioned won't fit on a Ruger. Mike
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