Wad Material

I don't know, but I MAY have found a wad material that hasn't been tried around here, but given the ingenuity displayed by you guys I'd doubt it.

Anyway, around here moose abound and they leave little piles of presents all over the country. After a while they dry out nicely but retain their cohesiveness and some people do all kinds of neat stuff with them for the tourists.

Today I was out shooting my short 13 gauge and happened upon a pile and it occurred to me to try a couple as op wads. So I grabbed one, broke it in half and stuffed one down each bore on top of the powder, then shot, then one card and let 'em fly. Worked a treat. Nice thing is that broken in half you get a nice flat surface to push the shot column.

I didn't do any high tone pattern testing on paper, but the various organic stuff I did shoot at took a nice bunch of pellets.

Just wanted to pass this along to any of you who live in moose country and who might get a kick out of trying this.

Now I just gotta find some leavin's from a smaller moose for my 20 that's coming in soon. :thumbsup:

Now...would that be considered going organic or just recycling? :rotf: Anyway, as long as it works I thinks it's an interesting idea. :v

Now that sounds like "bull shlt" " to me! :rotf: :rotf: But then it might have been cow. :idunno: :idunno:

I make a pile of stuff like that every morning. Wonder if that would work? :rotf:

Yeah, but I will need a much bigger gun!

shortbow said:

Now I just gotta find some leavin's from a smaller moose for my 20 that's coming in soon.

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Will that be your Feces-de-Chasse ?
:haha:

After reading this..those OP card dont seem so expensive!!!!

I am liking it!

All natural and biodegradable. May have to check the Geneva Convention for chemical dispersement weapons.

Might want to wash that bunny well after you've blasted him with poo & pellets, though.

Must smell good too. :haha:
Is it a form of :bull: ?

hmmm, I wonder if horse wadding would work too? I have an abundance of that

No thanks! I don't want anyone saying that I can't shoot for s__t.

Makes a change from the usual s,,,, flying around here :rotf:

Nice one :thumbsup:

B.

hanshi said:

No thanks! I don't want anyone saying that I can't shoot for s__t.

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I represent that remark! As they say at the Old Northwest and several local rendezvous ,"Ramrod cann't shoot for shlt but he sure can cook !" :yakyak: :yakyak:

Another thing is that I refuse to follow behind a cow all day looking for shooting supplies. Now if they passed black powder.... :rotf:

I believe I have seen someone mention period reference to the use of dried dung as wadding on another forum sometime back.

We now have documentation for sitting around and shooting the s--t ! :rotf:

Now I have seen everything. ML's going green. Will this help with the anti-gun people? :idunno:

Hmmmm. I wonder if bunny turds would work for overpowder wads in revolvers?

I know everyone is having a field day with this one, but on a more serious note, how many of you have ever split apart a piece of animal "dung" ( Pellets, poop, droppings, etc.)to see what its made from?

I once was asked to settle a "bet" between two club members who had spent the night in one man's Tipi. When they awoke, they found some Animal had left a pile of poop right in front of the front "door" to the tipi. one man claimed it was from a Rabbit; the other said it was a deer.


The word "Pile" should be the give away clue here, but for those who don't look at poop in the wild, a rabbits spits out a small pellet, while a deer lets out a string of pellets. IN the winter time, when they are dehyrating so much, those pellets come out a lot more solid than in the summer months.

Rabbit pellets are about 3/8" in diameter, and about 3/8-1/2" long at the longest, appearing at first glance to be Round, but on closer look, they have a cylinder shape to them. Both ends of a rabbit pellet are FLAT. They can be any color- but are most commonly black-- depending on what the rabbit is eating, and the season of the year.

Deer "pellets" in the winter tend to have the shape of an acorn, with a flat top, but a pinched- off tail at the other end. It will be 3/8-3/4" in diameter and from 1/2 -3/4" long, depending in the age of the animal. Even in the winter, the pellets will be more green than brown or black in color.

When I easily settled the BET between the two men, after just confirming the "Pile" and the shape of the pellets, the loser demanded to have more proof. So, since they were frozen, I took off my glove, picked one of the pellets, and used my penknife to cut it open, showing the long Guard hairs of the deer, that were gray and red in color.

Then, I found a rabbit pellet on a nearby trail, cut it in half and showed him the soft white "down" fur from the rabbit's under coat, along with the soft gray and brown fur from the cotton tail rabbit.

Both of these guys flinched and made faces when I picked up the pellets, not believing I would do that so casually. But, they both took the opportunity to learn about what the pellets contained, and how easy it was to confirm the source of the pellets.

When you spend considerable time tracking animals, you run across their "Scat" often. If you are willing to spend the time finding their tracks, finding their scat to examine to confirm you identification of the animal that left the tracks you are following is a BONUS.

In the late Spring,Fall, and Summer, I will use a stick to split apart the softer poop, and yes, I stay upwind of the stuff. :surrender:

If you examine old piles of horse manure, and cow manure, you will find much undigested hay in them. So, yes, they might be the source of some vegetable matter fiber wads, but only in the winter, when the cold, DRY air, sucks all the moisture out of the manure, and kills 99% of the bacteria( That produces the methane gas that smells so toxic!)

Remember that early settlers, traveling across the Great Plains, use "buffalo chips" for "firewood" to cook with, simply because there are so few trees located on the Great Plains. I am sure they made other uses of the material whenever a need was found.

Oh, after I settled that Bet, the Treasurer of my club found an old Cartoon by Buck Brown in a 60s vintage playboy magazine, and sent it to me, with a note claiming that I am a " S*^t Expert ", now! I was the secretary of the club back then, so to let all the members in on the joke, I made it a copy to send out with the monthly newsletter, with a summary of how I "won" that title.

Everyone had a great laugh, but a few members quietly took me aside later and asked me to show them how to "read" "Scat". :v

If you can laugh at yourself, you will always have something to laugh about. :hmm: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Well with moose pellets, after they've lain out there over the winter they are completely dry and clean. As to their use for wadding, it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that it was used both by NDN's and their Paleface counterparts for wadding guns because it's plentiful, compact and very fibrous and durable. I know folks would get a kick out of it, but it does in fact work quite well.

And, unlike us humans who often have to resort to things like Metamucil to get enough fiber in our diets, the proof is in the "pudding" that moose get lots from their regular vittles. :wink:

Anyhow, can't wait until the next rondy when I whip a few out of my bag and start stuffing them down bore. That should get some attention.