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How about these ;-)

I can see the product advertisement:

"It takes brass balls to hunt with a flintlock in these parts!"


Brass Balls
In our wide range of non-ferrous balls, we bring forth Brass Balls, which provides excellent resistance to corrosion by water, and are substantially lower in cost than other corrosion-resisting balls. Our range is widely used in many types of valve applications requiring small-size balls. Besides, the range offered by us has the ability to resist the corrosive effects of fuel oil, gasoline, butane, dry carbon dioxide, benzene, lime-sulphur mixture and similar chemical agents.



Mostly used for non-bearing applications, the properties of our range like ductility, good corrosion resistance in moisture and electricity conductivity find it allied applications in machines and components. Not just this, it can also be used in the security and appliance industries for dip and tilt switches. Furthermore, this type of balls is available in a range of sizes, tolerances and grades of brass.

Brass Balls:: Material Analysis:

ӢCopper: 68.50% - 71.50%
ӢLead: 0.7% max
ӢIron: 0.05% max
ӢZinc: 33.50% - 36.50%
ӢOther Elements: Traces
Brass Balls:: Mechanical Properties:

ӢTensile Strength: 80,000 psi
ӢYield Strength: 57,000 psi
ӢElongation in Two Inches: 20.00%
ӢReduction in Area: 85.00%
ӢModulus of Elasticity: 15,000,000 psi
ӢDensity: 0.306 lbs/cubic inch

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Why round balls? If you had to switch over to a non lead projectile, i'd use a conical.

This one is copper.
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Those bad boys kick butt in our cabelas hawken with 110gr pyrodex rs.
 
Guys,
I read and learn from all of you.
Some I agree with, some I don't.

But when are you all, going to kick ass out of the dumb ass liberals, who promote this no lead zone. Muzzleloaders have been using lead balls for over 300 years, now they want you to use cotton balls........what next arrows without sharp points?
Give me a break!
Old Ford
 
just use lead free solder to cast in a mould. expensive but is the right size. or very close.
do you all really think the lead police will check each and every hunter? will they have a way to test the balls of each hunter? the balls for the gun I mean. :surrender:
thats why this old man does not live in the state of califorina .
 
santabob said:
just use lead free solder to cast in a mould. expensive but is the right size. or very close.
do you all really think the lead police will check each and every hunter? will they have a way to test the balls of each hunter? the balls for the gun I mean. :surrender:
thats why this old man does not live in the state of califorina .
We have a cute little female warden in this area who would be quite welcome to test mine. :haha: Oh Yeah!
 
If you're going to do that (the solder casting - not the ball checking) you might do better to order lead-free casting pewter from Rotometals.com. Close to the same composition as lead-free solder and about 1/3 the cost.

PS CJoe - you might be sorry when she holds them up to the light and turns them all around for a careful look and thumbnail test! :shocked2:
 
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You're right Stumpkiller, never give any LEO more information than required. :redface:
 
I think lead checks for round balls is about as likely as broadhead checks and bow weigh ins for archers, lead pellet checks for shotgunners, and FMJ checks for centerfire riflemen. It would be based on the honor system.
 
Old Ford said:
Guys,
I read and learn from all of you.
Some I agree with, some I don't.

But when are you all, going to kick ass out of the dumb ass liberals, who promote this no lead zone. Muzzleloaders have been using lead balls for over 300 years, now they want you to use cotton balls........what next arrows without sharp points?
Give me a break!
Old Ford

The answer to the first question is never.
 
Norinco said:
I think lead checks for round balls is about as likely as broadhead checks and bow weigh ins for archers, lead pellet checks for shotgunners, and FMJ checks for centerfire riflemen. It would be based on the honor system.
Game wardens here definitely DO check what ammo a hunter may be carrying. Of course they only look at the outside of the cartridge so I guess one could reload a steel shot shell with lead. For muzzleloaders they will look at your shot or bullets. They can't tell what is in the barrel but you'd better not have sabots in your pouch. How they could tell if a ball is lead or tin I don't know but I think it's pretty funny that even though most of us are not yet subject to the non-tox restrictions we are already talking about how to sneak around them. :haha:
 
Hmm, never had that happen around here to either me or my friends. Then again, the limited hunting I do is on private property.

They could carry around devices to check for lead. Every element has a unique spectrum when hit with light. All they have to do it hit the ball in question with the laser beam and the device will read off the chemical composition. The analysis of the light from the sun is how humans discovered that helium exists. The light spectrum from the sun didn't quite add up to what was expected from hydrogen.
 
Norinco said:
I think lead checks for round balls is about as likely as broadhead checks and bow weigh ins for archers, lead pellet checks for shotgunners, and FMJ checks for centerfire riflemen. It would be based on the honor system.

Lots of lead pellet checks here, basically every time you encounter a warden. And based on reports from friends who hunt there, in Missouri too. I hear that it varies a little from place to place with state wardens, but the folks from the US Fish & Wildlife service always check.

Here's another factor I've run into up here. The staties that have checked me on deer and small game hunts are really curious about our sport and ask lots of questions having nothing to do with laws, just to get better acquainted with it. One seemed personally fascinated with traditional muzzleloaders, and I've invited him to shoot with us and try the guns for himself. Busy season for him right now and it's yet to happen, but come this winter I really hope to put a smile on his face and make another convert.
 
But wouldn't the rub test pick up other plumbous metals as well (zinc, tin, etc)?

I wonder how the marker works. I can see it working if it only reacts with lead and nothing else.
 
I don't picture the wardens driving up in a remote lab vehicle with a gas chromatograph so the test kit was just pure speculation.

Go ahead and ask your local fish-cops what they plan on using if the need arises . . . and perhaps get the Eye of Sauron looking in your direction. Not me.

I am CERTAIN they will not want any added duties like this, anyway. I've never had anyone measure my broadheads . . . though I did have to present all my shotshells once when grouse hunting on state lands during deer season.

"Would you place one of your balls on the HAZ MAT spatula, please?"

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