Antique 1841 competition 50 cal

1841longrifle · Oct 6, 2009

I have inherited this pristine 1841 custom made 50 cal. long muzzleloader. Anyone have an idea of it's value? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB9grJrjYXk

pastor · Oct 6, 2009

I have no idea but it's one awesome rifle!

1841longrifle · Oct 6, 2009

Thank you. You have an exceptional eye for an unique antique.

Billnpatti · Oct 7, 2009

Lordy mercy!!! That is one sweet looking rifle. :applause: I have no idea of its value but I'd say it was considerable. If I were you, I would never even think of selling it. :nono: I hope you are asking its value just for insurance purposes. It certainly is worth taking to someone who is qualified to appraise its value. :thumbsup: Hang onto that rifle, guns of that age and condition do not come along very often. It is a treasure and if it came from a family member, find out its full story and document it. Such provinance is worth even more money if anyone were to make the mistake of selling it. :hatsoff:

Dphar · Oct 7, 2009

antique rifle said:
I have inherited this pristine 1841 custom made 50 cal. long muzzleloader. Anyone have an idea of it's value? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB9grJrjYXk[/quote]

Its a 19th century match rifle. The "action" is similar to many percussion Schutzen rifles. But this looks like it was stocked for rest shooting.
Its worth depends on its original maker and condition and if its been modified or recut, rifling twist etc etc.
The rear sight likely dates to the 1870s-1890s.
You could try contacting Wyoming Armory in Cody Wy 307 527 4570. They have several similar rifles on display and have an understanding of what they are are and what they might currently be worth.

Dan

Dphar · Oct 7, 2009

wyomingarmory dot com

1841longrifle · Oct 9, 2009

Thanks, will do!

dlimoges · Oct 9, 2009

Every once in a while remington made a commeritive, maybe check into that .Just a thought.

Dphar · Oct 9, 2009

elmer said:
Every once in a while remington made a commeritive, maybe check into that .Just a thought.

Remington sold LOTS and LOTS of barrels marked like this one in the 19th century. Some rifled some not.
Its not a Remington commemorative.

Dan

1841longrifle · Oct 10, 2009

I agree. I believe it was custom made but don't know for whom. I found a 1902 newspaper article from Philadelphia that had E.S. Johnson in a shotgun competition. I've also found what may have been a Johnson Tool & Dye Company.
I took your advise and sent it to Wyoming Armory.
Thanks, Sue
P.S. Johnson won the match!

1841longrifle · Oct 11, 2009

Thanks for all the views. For those that asked the barrel measures 33" with an overall length of 51" and weights 16#.

jtmattison · Oct 20, 2009

Great video presentation. However, it doesn't do the rifle justice. I know since I've had the pleasure of holding it. I'm the neighbor down the hill.
:wink:

Looks to be about 45 caliber. We didn't mic the bore but a 50 caliber jag wouldn't go down.

I wouldn't sell that beauty! I'd go out and shoot it.

:hatsoff:

HD

Beau49 · Oct 21, 2009

Very nice firearm, always did like the looks and builds of the old style Target rifles.
Wish I had one like it.

Have looked for E.S.Johnson on the net but nothing
but inquires about him so far.

Will look around some more.

dellos · Oct 25, 2009

For me It look's like Foster Rifle or Coatch Rifle. A great rifle for Sharpshooter's! This was civilian gun, but wyth diopter great for long distanse shooting. Awsom SHAPE of this one!

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