Cabela's Blue Ridge Deluxe

Howdy!

Just got Cabela's 2009 Shooting catalog. They have some new offerings in black powder.

One is a Deluxe Blue Ridge Flintlock. $400 more than the regular Blue Ridge. Best I can tell, it is a wood upgrade and patchbox addition.

Does anyone have other info on what else may or may not be offered on the gun? Seems like an expensive upgrade to me.

James
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I saw it when the '09 catalogue came in. Like you, it seems like a lot of dough for the wood and patchbox. I won't get down to Scarborough for a couple of weeks, but I'll be taking a look at one if they have them on the rack.

I don't understand why someone would spend that kind of money for a generic factory made gun. You can get a much better gun for that money and for a little more, a really nice custom job.

No matter how much you polish a turd it will always be a turd.... :wink:

Mike Brooks said:

No matter how much you polish a turd it will always be a turd.... :wink:

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lol Now thats funny I dont care who you are. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Mike Brooks said:

No matter how much you polish a turd it will always be a turd.... :wink:

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Ha ha ha...Hey, I own a turd :shake: :shocked2:

Mike has it right. I have one of them Turds,.32 Blue Ridge. Hell will have to freeze over before I will buy another Pedersoli High priced junk. Dilly

I think that it will not be long before the Pedorsoli guns are going to price themselves out of the market completely

I always wonder about the price of the Pedersoli's.I have a .36 calibre flint Blue Ridge and a Brown Bess.Both are very good guns but before I spend that much on a new gun I'll be buying a custom .Best regards,J.A.

You don't say what uses you intend to put the rifle to, but given those prices you'd be better off getting a plain rifle made by a good builder. Many of them will take a downpayment and so much per week or month until the delivery date is reached. You'll have a one of a kind rifle with top quality parts and excellent fit and finish instead of that overpriced gun with its anemic butt and chubby forearm.

Like an ugly sister trying to win a beauty contest...

Mike Brooks said:

No matter how much you polish a turd it will always be a turd.... :wink:

Mike,

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Mike,I stand totally in awe of your unique tact. You have few equals and NO superiors.I must say also that I agree here. About 20 years ago I bought an unfired .45 cal. Hatfield,Ser.No.367 {the forerunner of this gun} from a gentleman who came by my table.We had a lot of trouble with the lock but it does OK now. My son has it now.I thought then that with some creative stock and mount enhancement and a proper box that it could be made into a fairly plausible early 19th century Allentown type gun.The box on this newest gun looks like a poor attempt to emulate a cross between a Womelsdorf school gun and a box from one of those guns attributed to Wolfgang "Haga".

As to this latest effort to make a sow's ear into a silk purse, the problem is as I see it that as an historically authentic gun it falls flat although I concede that many,perhaps even most reenactors won't know the difference.If,however, the intended purpose is only to have a good shooter then a Lyman Great Plains Rifle in flint would appear to be a better buy and certainly a much better investment.I paid $275-300.00 some 20 years ago for that unfired Hatfield and I doubt it would bring much more than that if I put it on my table today whereas{all factors being equal}a GPR would probably increase in value more than the Hatfield.

I realize that I am ignorant as the respective merits of factory made black powder guns such as the Great Plains rifle,Thompson Center and others inasmuch as I have never owned a factory made gun.I can only go with the opinions of those who have owned and/fired them.
Tom Patton

Mike,I stand totally in awe of your unique tact. You have few equals and NO superiors.

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Thanks you old goat! :haha:

:v Like what has been said before---that gun is not any where close to being worth that price. I'll tell you what I bet Roy Stroh could make you a rifle to die for for for a few hundred more. No Pedersoli is worth anywhere close to that price, for a "better" grade of wood and a patchbox.I think it's an atrocity to ask ~$500 for a piece of wood and a brass patchbox. If you have a custom made gun I don't think that the asking price goes up $500 for a beautiful piece of figured maple.IMHO stay away from this-- :hmm: :hatsoff:

Mike Brooks said:

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You watched that episode of Mythbusters didn't you??? :wink:

Seriously, I am considering getting a flinter, and there is no way I would drop that kind of money on a factory gun that has slightly better wood and a patchbox. They could at least put a better quality lock on it.

Mike Brooks said:

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Don't beat around the bush, Mike. Tell us how you really feel. :rotf: :rotf:

Mike is right on. I suggest looking at one of Mike's offerings, an Early Rustic, TVM, or maybe something from Tip Curtis.

There are other accomplished builders on this forum too, so there are plenty of other offerings that might strike your fancy, for about the same price, or a little more.

IMHO, Pedersoli's quality ain't all that great. No tto mention, IMHO, that their design of the breech, on the Blue Ridge/ Frontier rifle really sucks.

Not sure when, but it seem like just a few years ago I bought one out of the scratch and dent room for around $200 or less. Never did find out why it was in the scratch and dent room, could not find a thing wrong with it. The last time I looked at one the price scared me.

I can tell you why it cost $400 more. It takes a trained eye. That nose cap is solid, not plated, gold :rotf: . My .45 Blue Ridge was my first flinter. It's been a good rifle, but not THAT good! Like J.D. said, look to TVM, Early Rustic Arms, Tip and Sitting Fox for a decent rifle or smoothie. I have my share of production rifles. It's time to step up the ladder. If these Pedersoli new prices are a sign of the time, maybe a custom gun should be considered entry level :rotf: . Very sad :shake: .

Stay away from this gun. I just redo my 15 year old Hatfield into something better. The parts are just cheap pieces of "turds". Nothing on the trigger is polished and if you do so, the parts are getting loose. The touchhole was way too high and the pan way too flat. The barrel has pretty shallow rifling. Not what I like for PRB. This gun has also a patented breech in the flint version,too. The powder channel is usually too small to get reliable ignition. I don`t like that at all, that`s why I replaced the breechplug by a normal flat one. When I was real young and stupid, I bought this rifle, because I did not know any better and no one old me either. A custom or semi-custom is always better in flint, because it will have the correct LOP
The springs in this lock are real hard,so even TOW offers an upgrade.
I am more happy with a €99 Dikar (CVA) percussion kit I finished, because the supplied barrel has at least deep cut rifling.
Check my topics and you will see what I am talking about.....I have no clue,why anyone in the US would like to buy those uropean replicas. Custom or semi-customs are real cheap compared to here in Europe. All custom gun parts here in Germany are imported from the US. Go figure...

As soon as I figure out how to replace the lock on my Blue Ridge with an American lock, I'll have a custom gun with a Turd stock since I've already replaced the barrel.................Bob