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CaptainVane

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Is sometimes hard to find, I use Triple 7 and satisfied with it.
So here a question. If you could get real black powder would you go back? Or would you stay with the substitutes?
Personally, I kinda like 777 over the real stuff.
 
I’m a recent convert to black powder. All my muzzle loading/cap and ball revolver up till now was Pyrodex. Flintlock doesn’t work well/barely works with substitutes, so I went black. Powder Valley had Schuetzen on sale last week for under 20 bucks a pound. GOEX is supposed to start production back up today.
Next time I find it on sale like that, I’m doing a North Florida group buy.
-Red, once he’s had black…
 
I got into front stuffers to shoot real black powder. If absolutely none were available I might use a sub if I really had a need to use a ML for hunting or something but I don't *have* to hunt ML season....

And if you are looking for some Grafs has Swiss, Schutzen and their house brand in stock now, with free hazmat if you order more than $150 (so 5+lbs of swiss or a few more of Schutzen/Housebrand)
 
We are in this to recreate the old ways. If you want to 'substitute' put away the ml rifle/pistol and get a bolt action rifle or a cartridge accepting handgun. Doing it the old way presents challenges and those are part of the history learning and enjoying aspects of this game.
EDIT: I'll soften my stance a bit for certain circumstances. When real bp is hard to find, using 'sub' powders may be the only way to continue to use the guns we favor here. I'll forgive ye for thet. :thumb:
 
90% of my shooting is with real BP. I will use some T7 in my revolvers sometimes. I really like T7 in BP cartridges so I keep some on hand. T7 is also almost double the price of real black power if you buy BP online in bulk. Locally T7 is around $42 a pound here. I can order BP and with Hazmat and shipping still have around $25 in a pound of BP. I’d never shoot pyrodex in anything I own. Powdered rust.
 
A few months ago I tried and used T7 and Pyrodex, the result is that I will never do it again...
I tried it because we have, here, in Absurdistan, a penury of real PN and now we can get some, with difficulties, real BP (French and Swiss). The French and the Swiss powders (equal in quality) are very expensive for us here and now: 1 Kg (two pounds of 500 grams) = 140.00 $ for the Swiss and 90.00 $ for the French and 65.00 $ for the American pound of T7), so the price is not a reason to choose substitutes or real BP and the T7 is easier to get. Trust me, I'm really happy to find those good real powders and I will never return near the substitutes.
The substitutes don't work with all my arms and the quality in regard to the real BP is bad...
I will never go back: black powder only.

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