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Yep, tip some powder in. 4 or 3 f.
Add some wadding. Tip the same amount of shot but add about a quarter again of the measure. Put something on top and go shoot at something.
Are you telling him to use 4f in the bore or in the pan? I never use 4f for anything but pan powder! Need to be more clear on that.
 
Are you telling him to use 4f in the bore or in the pan? I never use 4f for anything but pan powder! Need to be more clear on that.
Are you telling him to use 4f in the bore or in the pan? I never use 4f for anything but pan powder! Need to be more clear on that.
I can say for him ,he and I both use 4f as a main charge,try it you'll like it (OR NOT) makes no difference to me /Ed
 
The .410 with the TSS shot and the right choke can kill about twice as far as a .410 lead load. If you pattern your gun it will tell you the range in which it will get the job done. Lots of variables shooting shot loads, just gotta find the one that you and your gun like. As mentioned the Skychief load is a great place to start. My Kibler Colonial 58 SB has taken a trip to Kansas for a Jug Choke.
 
That was my frame of mind. Figured the right load could make it work
Your right as in the fight load will work but it might take some time to find the right load.I shoot two 28 gauges and mine don’t like what every one says they should ( 55grns of powder and equal shot ) mine like 40 grns of powder a paper shot cup and 60 grns eq of shot so lots of exspirimenting 😃.
 
Absolutely in the bore.
I think I put it perfectly clear.
Not going to argue your choice of 4f in your bore but it's not very sound advice for someone just starting out and asking for loads for their new to them 50 smoothie! If in your case you've had 50 years of successful load development work and you understand all the properties of different granulations, that's fine, but again there are a lot of new inductees into our hobby that might not fully grasp the potential failures and dangers of using superfine powders! Enough said I think!
 
Not going to argue your choice of 4f in your bore but it's not very sound advice for someone just starting out and asking for loads for their new to them 50 smoothie! If in your case you've had 50 years of successful load development work and you understand all the properties of different granulations, that's fine, but again there are a lot of new inductees into our hobby that might not fully grasp the potential failures and dangers of using superfine powders! Enough said I think!
Please educate the new guy with factual evidence of failures. Potential failure means diddly squat.
Same old unsubstantiated rhetoric.
 
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