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"How would you like to see me aiming at you?" since I am wearing blaze Orange, I would assume you are either a nut case or a person intent on harm, and act appropriately. You seemed to miss that part. If the person in question had been wearing the appropriate clothing, there would be no reason to be aiming at them. AS mentioned previously, scopes are not binoculars and should not be used to "glass" areas etc. However, In the heavy woods of PA you have to identify the deer as being legal or not, and the criteria changes every year. Two points, three points, spikes over 3 in etc., etc. When deer move through the thick underbrush they come in and out of view and you must quickly identify them as legal or not, hence you are following their movement through the scope, prepared to shoot. The deer will not give you much time to decide. It is all a moot point when people wear proper clothing that hunters can readily see and recognize. I do not believe that you are condoning that people wear clothing that makes it difficult for anyone to see who or what they are, but the fact is that many people do. I also would not recommend that you do anything like what your "friend" did, especially in Alabama. He may have been "scoped" and that may have upset him, but firing your firearm at or neantanar a person is a good way to get shot, IMHO, since the person being shot at has no way of knowing why the other person is shooting at him. He would have been better served to ride up to the other person and tell him his concerns, and why he believes it is a bad idea to do it. etc. YMMV
Apparently those in Alabama and Pennsylvania view people aiming guns at them much differently than we do in Montana. We take offense very quickly about such things.
The reason your guy gets shot at, is he is looking down the barrel of a rifle at someone. Wouldn't spend one day in jail in Montana for shooting someone pointing a gun at you.
 
Ohio has the blaze orange law,oddly the requirements have always been fuzzy… as long as you have some orange on is all it matter ( hat, gloves, coat etc) I have a frock that has a blaze orange cape, I wear that some times…if I don’t feel like going traditional I have a large coat that’s blaze orange, with that being said..I don’t mind wearing it during the gun season in Ohio. That law basically protects me from other hunters by allowing them to see me, both entering the woods and leaving the woods. I hunt in my private woods, but I for sure want to let others know I’m there, with blaze orange I stick out like a sore thumb to others, not so much deer. I’ve taken some nice deer while wearing orange, they walk by and don’t even know I’m there.
 
Montana's first muzzleloading season is several months away. When I hunted during general gun season, I have not paid attention to any special blaze orange configuration beyond complying with regulations. My roommate will be big game (whitetail) hunting for the first time. I want her to hunt from ground stand. Anticipating stillness and silence will mean something different from what I mean, I'm thinking that some configuration of blaze orange camouflage will improve her ability to "become part of the woodwork."

Hunting conditions are heavy forest, significant verticality ±75 feet (is "verticality" a real word??) surrounded by mountains. Were she to be still hunting or other kind of purposive movement, heavy forest is interrupted by clear cut meadows about 200 x 100 yards. Weather is similar to Missouri Ozarks at same time of year, excluding snow, and perhaps similar to upstate New York but I can't confirm New York.

Having furnished background and some context, would blaze orange camouflage as pant-jacket or jump suit be what I get for her? Or would a ghilly suit be preferred? If you have experience with either, please explain your choice and whether it did the job you wanted.
Good luck trying to find blaze orange camouflage. I found one blaze camouflage coat during the last couple of years. For some reason blaze camo has fallen out of favor. The selection of solid blaze is not what it used to be. Blaze orange vests seem to be the popular item now. I prefer blaze camo over solid orange because I feel that it breaks up your outline. But what do I know?
 
I also wear a small orange backpack to carry lunch and my field dressing gear. If I decide to sit and glass for a while I try to find a high limb to hang it. works for a tree sit/stand as well.
 
If you don't know your target, don't point a gun at it. How would you like to see me aiming at you? If you think that should be SOP, you are a slob hunter. It happened to an old cowboy buddy of mine down the south fork. When he saw the guy, he got off his horse and emptied his .45-90 Winchester in the very near vicinity of the dumb ass scoping him.
Are you on the South fork of the Shoshone?
 
I hunt Washington States muzzleloader season only, and when I hunt, I hunt on private land, so I don't have to wear the orange and I don't. But if I were to go out in a more public area to hunt, even though it is not required during our ML seasons, you can bet the farm I would be out there in hunter orange. Vest, hat, gloves and carrying a Barbie Pink rifle. I know how to hunt deer, I could do it in a pantsuit and office shoes and still take game. They don't care about our fashion choices.
Too many idiots out there. The orange sore thumb gear is to help keep you alive in a world of idiots. Wear it. It is not HC/PC at all, but staying alive is more important.
 
Blaze Orange requirements for hunting are B.S. and shouldn't be inflicted on the hunting population.

When people enter the woods to hunt, they need to accept the risk that other people are in the woods with guns too.

Now the nanny state in many areas is requiring hunters to wear these fabric safety cones on private land too.

I refuse.
I have taught hunter safety for 56 years and I was keeping a library of the hunters that were shot for game, I have quit, but it was a good thing to show kids. I do feel sorry for the hunter that shoots you for game, but we do have a saying, you can't fix stupid.
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I have taught hunter safety for 56 years and I was keeping a library of the hunters that were shot for game, I have quit, but it was a good thing to show kids. I do feel sorry for the hunter that shoots you for game, but we do have a saying, you can't fix stupid.
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Trying to understand your remark.

You feel sorry for some dumbazz hunter that can't tell human from animal?

You're blaming the no blaze orange hunter for getting shot?
 
Many years ago, back in the 1970's I went hunting near Mt. Davis with my Dad. He took his Navy Arms .45 swivel breech rifle and wore orange coveralls. I wore red plaid and carried a modern rifle as it was the regular buck season.
This was before Pennsylvania required an orange outer garment for deer hunting.
Dad left me at a spot and he walked off several hundred yards. I could see him the entire way!
After a while I heard movement coming from my left. Leaves rustled so probably not a deer, but I could not see what was making that steady rustle. Then less than 50 yards away came a hunter dressed in red plaid traditional hunting attire! He did not see me either.
I bought some orange overalls and an orange camo coat soon there after.
 
Blaze orange is at the top of my camo list. Deer do not see it as it looks white like the sky to them. Real dark camo is the worst. I fool deer and spotted one over 100 yards in the thick. Nice doe so i played with her and made her come to me. When she cleared the brush, about 25 yards, I dumped her with my revolver. With orange I have fooled a herd and was in the middle of them, I could move, walked to a tree, knelt down and cocked the flinter. when one got clear I had meat. I also like snow camo anytime of the year, works super in a tree stand even with leaves on the trees.
 
In Florida it's becoming increasingly dangerous to wear orange while hunting.
Next thing you know...you're sorted.

Orange picker.jpg
 
Our archery and ml seasons overlap. So for 9 days we have thousands of bowhunters and ml hunters on public land together. Over the years we have had two bowhunters shot by ml hunters. One was an ml and bowhunter together. The ml hunter shot his bowhunter partner before daylight! It was looked at as possibly intentional.

We have had two bowhunters shot and killed by other bowhunters as well.

I bowhunt without orange and ml hunt with it. I'm pretty sure my chances of ending up dead are greater while driving to and from.
 
No blaze orange requirements in Idaho.

How has the entire population not been decimated?

I'd have thought that every hiker, fisherman and outdoor enthusiast in the state would have eaten 30-06 bullets by know.

Hmmm...
 
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