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How's this for f#cking dumb ?
The New York State Assembly today passed legislation that bans lead ammo from being used on state lands and all lands in the New York City watershed. Talk about a big blow to frontstuffers! This is most of the Adirondack and Catskill parks! It hurts just talking about it!
Don't cartridge bullets also contain lead? They just killed hunting for a lot of people...

How about not being able to use lead shot for hunting waterfowl but it's okay to fish with lead weights?

Walt
 
Quite a few years ago I was at the range shooting a couple of my sidelocks when a young man pulled up. We chatted a little while I was swabbing my bore and he said that he brought his just purchased used T/C Hawken.
I had loaded and took another shot after confirming he had his "ears on" and noticed him getting his bench organized. I saw a can of IMR4227 and I asked him "is that the powder you plan on using?" He said "yea, this barrel doesn't have the warning label on it so it OK right?!"
I told him that he was very lucky I was there and he probably could have used it - once. I explained the difference in how the powders worked and why he couldn't use smokeless in his rifle then traded his new can of 4227 for a new can of Goex FFg I had in the truck.
I went on to show him how to measure the powder, load and shoot it. Thankfully it was a caplock as a flinter would have had more teaching.
I've seen him at the range many times since and being that he doesn't reload, he saves and gives me all his brass whenever we meet up there.
 
I came home one year to hunt with my dad and brother. All I owned was a muzzleloader. I didn't shoot a deer that year but as I was leaving, my dad asked "You're going to bring a REAL gun next time, right?"

I dressed in my Period clothing for a BSA Camp Black Powder Event. They fed us supper. I was wearing a pair of Apache War Boots. A young lady who was working with the kitchen staff asked where I got my boots. I told her "I took em off a dead Injun I kilt in the New Mexico Territory!" She looked at the guy running the ML program and asked "Is he serious?"

This wasn't a question but while working as a Rangemaster on our Public Range, a guy was just about to step off the firing line while the Range was Hot. We asked him what he was doing. He said, "I was going to check my target". He apparently thought everyone's projectiles were going to stay in their respective lanes!

Also not a question but still at the Public Range. There are only two safe directions for your muzzle, up or down range. One fellow wasn't practicing that. I yelled, "Muzzle Up". On my third attempt to get him to comply, he responded with "I don't know what that means!" Apparently he didn't read the Owner's Manual on his newly acquired firearm that describes its various parts.

I told a young lady that I had moved back to Oregon from California. The reason was "I was tired of the Rat Race because the Rats were winning." She asked, "Do they have a rat problem in California?"

Walt
 
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Not really shooting related but I was cooking a whole hog once at a rendezvous and had a guy ask me if it was a "Real Pig." He had a couple of kids with him and that was about the time the movie Babe was out, I asked if they had seen the movie to nods of yes. Well, there's Babe on the fire. I got stares of aghast and they stormed off. Ask a silly question and get a silly answer.
 
I too work with a lot of young people, Muzzleloading included. I notice a lot of kids who do attempt to cover up their lack of knowledge. I think there are some kids who are under a lot of pressure to not make mistakes, and they either feel like it’s expected that they know everything, or worst of all, are afraid to ask a question. One of my goals in working with these kids is to make sure they know that it’s okay to fail, mistakes happen, and the best way to recover from or avoid mistakes is to raise your hand. I now have a group of kids who aren’t afraid to ask questions, and even better, are confident enough to help each other out, and not feel ashamed when they need a hand. That is a Life skill!
with you 100%. I always say there's no such thing as a stupid question.
 
Not really shooting related but I was cooking a whole hog once at a rendezvous and had a guy ask me if it was a "Real Pig." He had a couple of kids with him and that was about the time the movie Babe was out, I asked if they had seen the movie to nods of yes. Well, there's Babe on the fire. I got stares of aghast and they stormed off. Ask a silly question and get a silly answer.

My brother used to read through the classifieds and would find an ad, Wanted, Home for Free "Pot Belly Pig". We'd laugh and say, I've got a home. It's called my freezer!

His daughter and kids were staying with us for a while. This was around the time the "Babe, Pig in the City" movie came out. We'd say things like "Babe, Pig in my Freezer". His granddaughter would have an absolute fit every time we said it!

Walt
 
I came home one year to hunt with my dad and brother. All I owned was a muzzleloader. I didn't shoot a deer that year but as I was leaving, my dad asked "You're going to bring a REAL gun next time, right?"

I dressed in my Period clothing for a BSA Camp Black Powder Event. They fed us supper. I was wearing a pair of Apache War Boots. A young lady who was working with the kitchen staff asked where I got my boots. I told her "I took em off a dead Injun I kilt in the New Mexico Territory!" She looked at the guy running the ML program and asked "Is he serious?"

This wasn't a question but while working as a Rangemaster on our Public Range, a guy was just about to step off the firing line while the Range was Hot. We asked him what he was doing. He said, "I was going to check my target". He apparently thought everyone's projectiles were going to stay in their respective lanes!

Also not a question but still at the Public Range. There are only two safe directions for your muzzle, up or down range. One fellow wasn't practicing that. I yelled, "Muzzle Up". On my third attempt to get him to comply, he responded with "I don't know what that means!" Apparently he didn't read the Owner's Manual on his newly acquired firearm that describes its various parts.

I told a young lady that I had moved back to Oregon from California. The reason was "I was tired of the Rat Race because the Rats were winning." She asked, "Do they have a rat problem in California?"

Walt

You really do seem to be overly burdened with complete dwongs where you live, don't you? :)
 
Thanks, sure wish there was an actual source to reference. Anyway, it does make for a good chuckle indeed 🤭
I know nothing about knapping flints, but I cut, shape and smooth stone to engrave with a laser.
I can assure you, stone absorbs water, and the cutting properties, especially when using a chisel or a high speed grinder, are totally different than when dry.
And it is a really bad idea to try and laser engrave stone that you are not 100% positive has drained out.
 
You really do seem to be overly burdened with complete dwongs where you live, don't you? :)
Not really. It's all those warning labels they keep putting on things. It disrupts the natural order of elimination by stupidity! You know, Survival of the smartest, I mean fittest.

Walt
 
Many years ago when I had only been shooting Muzzle Loaders for a couple of years a new club member brought his rather attractive wife with him as a guest and she desperately wanted (her words) to shoot a flint pistol. At the time I had a very nice single shot reproduction duelling pistol from Coach Harness as was and told her she could have a go with it. She watched as I loaded it and primed it ready to shoot, she shot it and her first words were "Wow... I think I've wet my knickers".
As a shy (!) 18 year old I didn't ask her to explain and needless to say, never offered her the chance to repeat the shot but that has stuck with me for a good 50 years! I have shot an awful lot of flintlocks since but they have never had that effect on me....?
 
One time when I was RSO'ing at our range I saw a guy with his new in-line firing away. Every time after he shot, he got out a portable drill and attached a cleaning rod and shotgun bore brush to the end of it and "whirred" it up and down the barrel for about 10 seconds. Then he swabbed with dripping wet patches. I asked him why he did that, and he said "to keep the fouling down and get better ignition." I just said; "ok, I don't do it that way, but you can do what you want.". In short order (like 2-3 shots) the touch hole was clogged. He couldn't figure out why. I then proceeded helped him pull the plug and the fire channel was packed solid with wet sloppy goo. I looked at him and said; "Why? that's why." Sometimes you just have to let people learn their lessons the hard way.
 
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I would classify this as a dumb statement, made by someone who isn't an idiot.

I was out hunting ducks with my Pedersoli SxS, and a guy told me that if I wanted to get serious about duck hunting, but I should buy a "real gun". He's a military armorer, and he builds custom guns, so I wouldn't say he's a firearms idiot by any means, but he has very little experience with black powder.

I politely reminded him that black powder guns were used to hunt multiple species to the brink of extinction.
 
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