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Ok, I am going to brag a bit even though it was all Luck and no skill. The antique store musket I bought for $250, well, we know now that it is, in fact, a Pattern 1851 Minié rifle. Only 34k were made between 1852-1854 or 55. They used the early English version of the Minié bullet. All were sent and used in the Crimean War. The P51 was the first rifled musket in British service at .702 caliber. The one I bought does have the original barrel and length, but does appear it was bored smooth. The P51 was rendered obsolete before the end of the Crimean War with the arrival of the P53. Around 16k of the P51s made it back to England at wars end. The were all marked out of service and stored outside in the open until 1861. We all know what happened then. All 16k were purchased and resold to the CSA and were shipped out on blockade runners throughout early 1862. Two of the blockade runners were taken/sunk at a loss of around 3,400 of the P51s. All the remaining saw CSA service until sufficient P53s could be smuggled in.
We, my Son and I, have verified that there are less than 12 (either 10 or 11) intact P51’s in existence. And have found it stated that finding one in any condition is an extremely rare occurrence. While typing this my Son sent a text saying that while lightly cleaning the bore the remains of the rifling are clearly seen. The original rifling was very shallow anyway, so it appears that it’s mainly wear and tear from two wars that led someone to think it had been bored smooth. My Son removed the lock and it’s just dirty, no corrosion. He has other originals so there will be no over cleaning done. Also all the marks on the lock, barrel, and stock verify that the rifle was in service in Crimea, removed from service, sold to Barnett’s of London and then C&H for export to the Confederacy. So all it’s really missing is about 18”s of stock, a nose cap, and ram rod. Also neat about the P51 is that it used barrel wedges and ram rod pipes. So 2 of the tenons and the pipes are gone too. But, it’s still a very, very rare rifle. I’m just lucky to have stumbled on it.
 
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Ok, I am going to brag a bit even though it was all Luck and no skill. The antique store musket I bought for $250, well, we know now that it is, in fact, a Pattern 1851 Minié rifle. Only 34k were made between 1852-1854 or 55. They used the early English version of the Minié bullet. All were sent and used in the Crimean War. The P51 was the first rifled musket in British service at .702 caliber. The one I bought does have the original barrel and length, but does appear it was bored smooth. The P51 was rendered obsolete before the end of the Crimean War with the arrival of the P53. Around 16k of the P51s made it back to England at wars end. The were all marked out of service and stored outside in the open until 1861. We all know what happened then. All 16k were purchased and resold to the CSA and were sent options blockade runners throughout early 1862. Two of the blockade runners were taken/sunk at a lose of around 3,400 of the P51s. All the remaining saw CSA service until sufficient P53s could be smuggled in.
We, my Son and I, have verified that there are less than 12 (either 10 or 11) intact P51’s in existence. And have found it stated that finding one in any condition is an extremely rare occurrence. While typing this my Son sent a text saying that while lightly cleaning the bore the remains of the rifling are clearly seen. The original rifling was very shallow anyway, so it appears that it’s mainly wear and tear from two wars that led someone to think it had been bored smooth. My Son removed the lock and it’s just dirty, no corrosion. He has other originals so there will be no over cleaning done. Also all the marks on the lock, barrel, and stock verify that the rifle was in service in Crimea, removed from service, sold to Barnett’s of London and then C&H for export to the Confederacy. So all it’s really missing is about 18”s of stock, a nose cap, and ram rod. Also neat about the P51 is that it used barrel wedges and ram rod pipes. So 2 of the tenons and the pipes are gone too. But, it’s still a very, very rare rifle. I’m just lucky to have stumbled on it.
Wow! Can you post/link pictures for those of us who havent seen them yet?
 
Today I finished inletting this difficult toe plate. Its been in my box of parts for many years and now I have full appreciation for why I've been avoiding it. :rolleyes:

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Spent the afternoon with my Isaac Haines problem child. After every conceivable patch and powder combination, polished the bore with scotch bright and giving the barrel a couple of tweaks in the fork of a mesquite tree to get the sights back to the middle of the barrel, it finally began to load smoothly, and began to cloverleaf like it suppose to off the bench. Rang steel the rest of the evening until I ran out of .54s. Burned a pound and half of powder, maybe it just needed to be broke in, or maybe the nut holding it finally got his mind right. Good afternoon.
 

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The rain quit and the sun came out for a while so it was a good opportunity to spend some time at the forge. I forged a viking style fire steel, 4 rams horn turnscrews and a vent pick. The turn screw on the right is spoken for and one turn screws and the vent pick is going to Lewis Dean. It was a great day to hang out at the forge as it has been raining here in Ohio for the last 2 days.
Ohio Rusty ><>
 

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Worked on the final sanding of my latest belt knife. I made a knife about two years ago for an order but it didn’t turn out quite right for the order so I keep it. Gave it to my dad about 6 months ago after carrying it for 1.5 years. Really loved the feel of that knife! So this was a remake of it. But this time around I stenches the blade out another 1/2-3/4” in length and made the blade 3/16” deeper. Also used elk antler on this one. Pic with wood handle was the original. Unfortunately I didn’t take any pics afterwards! Here are a few from yesterday. Now to stain the handle and make a sheath!
 

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Acquired my first flintlock muzzleloader today; what have I done! It was listed as “unknown flintlock” on GB. I had been planning to get a parts set and go for it, but saw this one. I just put in the most I’d be willing to pay and ended up winning the auction 😲. It was built by someone who looked to have skills, has carving, wire inlays, engraving, and such. I had asked a lot of questions about it, maker, lock brand, etc. but seller said it was an estate sale item and they weren’t authorized to disassemble. I did find out it’s a straight barrel, 31.5”, 56 caliber. Has a sling and looks Jaeger-esque, but not as ornate. The rub is I’ve been searching around using “56 cal RB” and not finding much except smoothbore info. I did find a couple of places that had .550 balls, which I believe are what I need. When I started looking into the muzzleloader sport I read that 45, 50 were most popular and suppliers were dropping some of the other calibers. I couldn’t find any Lee or Lyman molds for .550 balls.
I’ll put up some photos if I can figure out how to capture them from GB, and provide more details once it’s in my hands. Anyway, diving into the sparky world! Got to partner up with a fellow flintlock shooter who can show me the ropes.
The GB seller sent me the photos from the listing... here's a few. Unfortunately, they didn't post a full-length shot of the rifle. I saw where TOW has some 56 cal RB in stock, so I'll get a hundred of those to start with while looking for a mold. It has a cool brass patchbox cover, but they didn't send that photo. Maybe someone can tell from photo whose lock that is. More to come...
 

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The GB seller sent me the photos from the listing... here's a few. Unfortunately, they didn't post a full-length shot of the rifle. I saw where TOW has some 56 cal RB in stock, so I'll get a hundred of those to start with while looking for a mold. It has a cool brass patchbox cover, but they didn't send that photo. Maybe someone can tell from photo whose lock that is. More to come...
Here's the patchbox cover and a couple more...
 

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Went turkey hunting this weekend with a Ithaca 20 gage, never saw anything. It felt strange taking something out of the cabinet and not spending hours disassembling cleaning and reassembling. It is much more enjoyable for me to take the black power fire poles to the range.
 
I have a new GM drop in for a TC, I coned it but noticed it had the roughest bore of any GM barrel I ever owned, I thought I could smooth it out, not so.

I gave the bore at least 155 passes with a red scotch-bright pad, flipping the pad every ten passes and changing the pad after 20 passes, the bore still seemed rough. I gave it 50 more with a green pad, 25 passes with a JB Bore paste patch on a bore brush and 100 more with a patch on a bore brush with JB bore shine. I oiled patch still goes down rough.

This is where I quit, the lands look like mirrors, the grooves are still rough. I haven't shot the rifle since I coned it or scrubbed it.


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Friend came to shoot his flintlock and I asked if he brought his ball puller. He told me he never dry balled. Guess what? He did it twice today. I was not even near him to interupt his loading. Good thing I brought my kit box.
 
I am devising an adjustable stadia for gauging short or long range, using different lengths of string (arm-length) - one for 25-150yards (with a one span string, approx 8"); the other 50-400 yards (two span, approx 16" string) . For a full 1000 yards I think you need a 24" string but I haven't gauged anything like that far yet.

Yesterday my girlfriend and I set up a pole with my hat on it (for an average 5'9" man) and using a tape, marked a field out in 25 yard graduations and gauged accordingly. This could all be done with trigonometry, of course, but we wanted to actually see what would be seen physically (and it does seem to me that sighing beyond a few hundred yards, without a scope of any kind, would be a hit or miss business anyway.

I didn't have a viewing window, so there is a fair bit of inaccuracy, but hey, I wonder how accurate they ever were anyway. Bullitdog and I have been corresponding about this and each experimenting with gauging distance, in his case with his replica bought online, and me with my cardboard isosceles triangle, using the basic dimensions of triangle that he has.

This is all an academic exercise for me, really, because first off I do not even have anywhere over 50 yards for shooting, second of all, point blank on the types I am shooting is 100 yards, and anyway, stadia were described at the time (1854) by Captain Jervis-White Jervis [in his treatise on the Enfield Pritchett Rifle] as, "a most useless though beautiful contrivance" ; That "during the late Hungarian war, it was found that, in actual practice, excitement, dense smoke, and a thousand other causes, prevented its being made use of"
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The GB seller sent me the photos from the listing... here's a few. Unfortunately, they didn't post a full-length shot of the rifle. I saw where TOW has some 56 cal RB in stock, so I'll get a hundred of those to start with while looking for a mold. It has a cool brass patchbox cover, but they didn't send that photo. Maybe someone can tell from photo whose lock that is. More to come...
That looks terrible!! Please let me take that poor example of muzzleloader craftsmanship off your hands so you don’t have to look at it again!!
 
The southern states were banned from owning rifles during Reconstruction so the muskets were converted to smoothbore.
Yes, the seller said it was a smoothbore, but after my Son lightly cleaned the bore the rifling was still there, or at least some/most of it. The P1851 had very shallow rifling from the start. We think this just shows the wear from being shot through 2 wars. And the barrel was not cut, its standard length for the P1851. Probably was used after the war as a smooth bore/shotgun.
 
Today was the opening day of turkey season so I grabbed the fowler and headed to the woods. Over the course of the morning I had wind, then rain, then sleet, then hail, then wind and sleet combined. The birds were smart and stayed in their beds, But I'm sure they were wondering who the idiot lost hen was who didn't know enough to come in out of rain.
 
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