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I was cleaning a Navy Arms rifle that I inherited from my dad. Broke off the ramrod about half way down with a jag, patch and oil at the end. Jag and patch are all the way down against the breech plug. Short of pulling the breech plug would anyone know of a way or trick to getting that ramrod and jag out?Pretty tight also. Mad at myself for not using a fiberglass cleaning rod.
 
Three ways, dribble some powder in the drum, 5 grains is plenty and shoot it out...Or use a CO2 canister and attachment to clear or screw in a greatse fitting and push it out with a grease gun..
 
There are zillions of posts on this in this forum over the years. If the rifle is a cap gun, then
the grease fitting method with pump pressure is the safest. The OP does not say if a prior
charge in place is possible. Just that he inherited it and was cleaning it. Nipples/cones
usually are removable. Screw in the right threaded grease fitting and pump in the grease--
makes a big mess but works and is safe.
 
No charge. Just got done shooting it. Was cleaning it when I broke the ramrod. I'm assuming that the nipple threads are metric as the Navy Arms is made by Pedersoli. Not sure what the threads are but hopefully the grease fitting would be available.
 
A friend had a similar problem with a flintlock rifle and compressed air didn’t work for him. There was just enough space around the edge of the jag in the barrel to allow the compressed air pressure to escape. He found this video on YouTube by Mike Beliveau on how to shoot a stuck jag out of a barrel. It worked for him with his rifle.

 
It might be a good investment for you to buy a separate cleaning rod, like one made from delrin or other flexible material for cleaning, then use your new ramrod you will be buying for loading. Lots of documentation of early frontiersmen carrying a separate wiping stick for cleaning purposes.
Ohio Rusty ><>
 
I would try shooting it out before resorting to the grease gun. It has worked for me more times than I care to admit. Just make sure it is pointed in a safe direction.
 
I would try shooting it out before resorting to the grease gun. It has worked for me more times than I care to admit. Just make sure it is pointed in a safe direction.
Not at your hand! I had a repro .44 Army and had a ball sort of stuck in the chamber without powder etc, I put a cap on and fired it into my cupped hand... Never, never, never again! That was a long time ago and the memory still stings!
 
Bought a CO2 discharger and tried that. Didn't work. Have an eighty gallon compressor with good pressure. Tried that. Didn't work. Tried 4 grains of powder to shoot it out. Didn't work. Tried 6 grains of powder and finally to my relief it came out. Happy camper. What I found out was, the barrel was pretty crusty where the drum enters the barrel. Thats where the ramrod was getting stuck. Got it all cleaned up and shot some lead down range. All in all a good last three days. Saturday took my 9 year old grandson to Rendezvous. Sunday Easter and Monday got the gun I inherited from my dad working. Thank You all for the advice.
 
Bought a CO2 discharger and tried that. Didn't work. Have an eighty gallon compressor with good pressure. Tried that. Didn't work. Tried 4 grains of powder to shoot it out. Didn't work. Tried 6 grains of powder and finally to my relief it came out. Happy camper. What I found out was, the barrel was pretty crusty where the drum enters the barrel. Thats where the ramrod was getting stuck. Got it all cleaned up and shot some lead down range. All in all a good last three days. Saturday took my 9 year old grandson to Rendezvous. Sunday Easter and Monday got the gun I inherited from my dad working. Thank You all for the advice.
I always like a happy ending, good job !
 
If its all the way down a few grains of powder in the breech and fire it off in a safe direction. You won't hurt the barrel at all. But before you do that , if you can get into the breech area with a Q-tip see if you can swab out any excess oil. Otherwise set the rifle on its muzzle for a couple hours before putting the powder in. Oil can contaminate powder in a hurry.
 
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