Number 11 cap shortage?

Stantheman86 · Jan 24, 2023

Tim_IA said:
I wonder what modifications are being done to the nipples?

He apparently turns them down to fit the toy caps

TDM · Jan 24, 2023

@Stantheman86 method is correct. Be versatile with the powder and components you use. Prices aren’t coming down anytime soon, maybe never. Buy what you can, when you can. Invest in a cap maker and have the supples to make other things you need. And certainly learn to cast your own bullets. It’s a good feeling to be self sufficient.

SPQR70AD · Jan 24, 2023

Bullit said:
Your kiddin right? How can you even load 5000 times in a week? You joker you.

ahahah

Bad Karma · Jan 24, 2023

Stantheman86 said:
The powdered eggs I stored 3 years ago are probably worth 10x what I paid, I can probably trade them for caps

Plus if you eat much of the powdered food you’ll have no need of toilet paper… saving all the way around.

stephenprops1 · Jan 24, 2023

A customer told me that he had 200,000 rounds of 5.56 in his basement. --- That is hoarding and totally insane.

TDM · Jan 24, 2023

stephenprops1 said:
A customer told me that he had 200,000 rounds of 5.56 in his basement. --- That is hoarding and totally insane.

That is a bit over the top by anyone’s standard.

Stantheman86 · Jan 25, 2023

Bad Karma said:
Plus if you eat much of the powdered food you’ll have no need of toilet paper… saving all the way around.

I hope there's no saltpeter like the eggs in Basic

Stantheman86 · Jan 25, 2023

TDM said:
That is a bit over the top by anyone’s standard.

I believe it, I work with some people who throw most of their $$ into guns and ammo . My coworker bought a palette of .45 ACP which is 100,000 rounds and he caught so much heat from his wife he ended up selling most of it . I bought some, it was a good deal because at that amount you basically pay Wholesale . He didn't "profit" so he couldn't get jammed up for "selling ammunition "

I believe he spent something like $20,000 or something like that. He's like "you save a lot buying in bulk" well, ok . Buy Once Cry Once. You got enough .45 to shoot to your hearts content and probably -1 Wife which is a win or loss depending on how you look at it.....so probably - 50% of everything he owns but hopefully she let him keep the ammo

TDM · Jan 25, 2023

Stantheman86 said:
I believe it, I work with some people who throw most of their $$ into guns and ammo . My coworker bought a palette of .45 ACP which is 100,000 rounds and he caught so much heat from his wife he ended up selling most of it . I bought some, it was a good deal because at that amount you basically pay Wholesale

I believe he spent something like $20,000 or something like that. He's like "you save a lot buying in bulk" well, ok . Buy Once Cry Once. You got enough .45 to shoot to your hearts content and probably -1 Wife which is a win or loss depending on how you look at it.....so probably - 50% of everything he owns but hopefully she let him keep the ammo

Yes, that kind of activity usually belays some other problem the person my have. Now don’t get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with having a 1 or 2 thousand rounds on hand. But past that at my age, in a fire fight, I might get 2 maybe 3 mags off if I’m lucky. If your a serious target shooter of CF you should have been reloading long ago, which I did.

Stantheman86 · Jan 25, 2023

TDM said:
Yes, that kind of activity usually belays some other problem the person my have. Now don’t get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with having a 1 or 2 thousand rounds on hand. But past that at my age, in a fire fight, I might get 2 maybe 3 mags off if I’m lucky. If your a serious target shooter of CF you should have been reloading long ago, which I did.

The shooting sports attract some people who probably need some Professional help, like people who empty their bank account to have 100,000 rounds of ammo drop shipped to their home , and causing problems domestically.

I did just get my 1,000 .454 round balls from MidWay today , that should keep me busy for a while.

TDM · Jan 25, 2023

Stantheman86 said:
The shooting sports attract some people who probably need some Professional help, like people who empty their bank account to have 100,000 rounds of ammo drop shipped to their home , and causing problems domestically.

I did just get my 1,000 .454 round balls from MidWay today , that should keep me busy for a while.

That’s a sound business practice!

Billbobebob · Jan 25, 2023

Stantheman86 said:
My theory is this..... it's not the availability, it's the price.....

We equate very high prices with availability

There are plenty of online places like that KYGUNCO to order caps, my local places have caps , Powderinc has black powder , it's out there , but people used to paying $5 a tin or $20 per lb are like "I'm not paying $15 per tin for caps that's gouging!"

So that equates to shortage, to them.

The same for ammunition. My local Dunham's has enough 5.56 to outfit a Battalion. All the ammunition I could ever need is available , it's just 50- 75 cents per round now. Online sources have lots of 1000 round cases of common calibers available if you're willing to pay. There's no shortage

Any one of us can currently get anything we need to shoot our guns

We've all seen "shortage" several times.....who remembers the Obama panic of 2008, or the panic after that when people were on the news leaving gun shops with 7 AR15s .

And there wasn't a round of anything, anywhere. Maybe if you got lucky you could score some 20 Gauge birdshot or .357 Sig or some other oddball manure.

We haven't yet seen the next "shortage " so if someone needs to drain their savings account to buy ammunition or caps, I guess do so now

I'd rather spend my money adding more peanut butter and powdered eggs to my stash

I agree with you. I am currently working and living in Costa Rica and most people do not have a lot of money which means they do not have the ability to stockpile things. The supper markets have little or no shortage’s.The gun stores have no shortages because the prices are too expensive for most people .

brownac1983 · Jan 25, 2023

Stantheman86 said:
Any one of us can currently get anything we need to shoot our guns

If you could point me toward the following I'd be much appreciative:

- 5 Monme musket balls
- .32 long or short Colt ammo
- A magazine for a 1907 Dreyse light carbine
- A scope base for a VZ-24 sniper

Darkgael · Jan 25, 2023

Sometime ago (maybe 20 years) i bought an adapter that allows me to use small pistol or small rifle primers in place of standard caps. It works quite well. Does anyone know if these adapters are still available?

brownac1983 · Jan 25, 2023

Darkgael said:
Sometime ago (maybe 20 years) i bought an adapter that allows me to use small pistol or small rifle primers in place of standard caps. It works quite well. Does anyone know if these adapters are still available?

They are. The original is called the Mag-Spark. There are a few other brands available but most people refer to them collectively as a Mag-Spark (kind of like Vice Grips or Crescent wrenches).
https://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com/mag-spark.html

wganz · Jan 25, 2023

Bullit said:
My theory is availability drives the price and vice versa. Going back to the early nineties, Bill Clinton said, if we can't stop the guns, we'll drive the price up to where they can't afford to shoot them. So far, his administration, Obama's, Bush's and now Biden's have taken this to heart. Seems as if the shortage may be from Bill's boss, Hillary.

That woman is a true evil witch.

Pierre009 · Jan 25, 2023

Stantheman86 said:
It seems to be a trend, that almost every thread lately has turned into an argument

I think we're all just in the mid winter cranky period, $5 eggs, can't go shooting enough ....I don't know
I just had to add 2 more to my block list on another thread

$5 eggs???...yesterday $7.95/doz down here. FJB...

Pierre009 · Jan 25, 2023

Okie Hog said:
Some of the most cantankerous people i ever dealt with are muzzleloader hunters/shooters.

In the runup to deer season 2022 i put several people on #11 caps at Wal Mart and Academy. A local hunter called asking where he could find #11 caps. Told him i had just returned from Wal Mart and they had caps. The man ranted about why he would never buy anything at Wal Mart.

Just before season he called again. i was first inclined to say i had none. But old softy gave him a full can and a partial can of #11 caps. Gave another hunter a pound and a half of Schuetzen BP: He brought me some meat from his elk.

i've been reloading ammunition since 1953 or 54. When Wal Mart came to this part of the country they drove a regional chain of stores out of business. Those stores all carried a very large selection of reloading stuff. For a year or two Wal Mart carried a small selection of reloading stuff but stopped.

Powder has nearly doubled in price in a couple years, so has primers. Thankfully i was well stocked before the shortage. i did run short on IMR 3031 and bought some from Cabela's at $45 per pound with tax.

Been to several stores down here looking for powder & caps...no luck.

user 53891 · Jan 25, 2023

Seriously ~ Really ???? 16 pages on #11 caps and ya ain't figured it out yet???
"HI HO SILVER, AWAY!!" :horseback:

Howard Pippin · Jan 25, 2023

Stantheman86 said:
My theory is this..... it's not the availability, it's the price.....

We equate very high prices with availability

There are plenty of online places like that KYGUNCO to order caps, my local places have caps , Powderinc has black powder , it's out there , but people used to paying $5 a tin or $20 per lb are like "I'm not paying $15 per tin for caps that's gouging!"

So that equates to shortage, to them.

The same for ammunition. My local Dunham's has enough 5.56 to outfit a Battalion. All the ammunition I could ever need is available , it's just 50- 75 cents per round now. Online sources have lots of 1000 round cases of common calibers available if you're willing to pay. There's no shortage

Any one of us can currently get anything we need to shoot our guns

We've all seen "shortage" several times.....who remembers the Obama panic of 2008, or the panic after that when people were on the news leaving gun shops with 7 AR15s .

And there wasn't a round of anything, anywhere. Maybe if you got lucky you could score some 20 Gauge birdshot or .357 Sig or some other oddball manure.

We haven't yet seen the next "shortage " so if someone needs to drain their savings account to buy ammunition or caps, I guess do so now

I'd rather spend my money adding more peanut butter and powdered eggs to my stash

good morning 86. Isn't it kind of weird when things get short, rather than the price stay the same, but just not have as many available because there aren't any, when the price goes up, there's some more out there. Now I'm not aware how more money makes the chickens lay faster or perhaps two eggs a day, you suppose that they are striking for higher wages? Maybe they want higher protein feed? Do the factories pay the workers more money to make more caps because the price went up? I really doubt that. Hopefully somebody on this forum can give me the answer.
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