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Just found out on another forum that Pedersoli is planning on producing a copy of the Baker rifle.According to the poster on the other forum he had heard rumours that Pedersoli had purchased a couple of original Baker rifles for templates.When he contacted Pedersoli they confirmed they will bemaking them sometime in 2023 and they will be available world wide.
 
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I posted this on another thread but will ad it here where it is probably more relevant for anyone that might be interested:

........ I contacted Pedersoli Australia to enquire about Pedersoli producing a Baker Rifle and received the following response (I’m sure.....I hope.....they won’t mind me copying it here for general information):

"Pedersoli have in their possession an original Baker Rifle recently acquired. I have seen a Pix of it.

It has always been stated that they would only make the Baker if they had an example of one of them.

I have no idea if they have proposed to manufacture as yet but I would suspect it highly improbable in the short term due to the fact that they are having difficulties in acquiring raw materials for current production and have many backorders.

I have firearms that have been on backorder for up to 18 months.

Rest assured, if and when they become available, I will be bringing them in."
 
Depends on the Pedersoli a lot of their rifles are very reasonable for the high quality you get. They are a lot cheaper as a kit to and their kits come with finished actions, generally have blued barrels, fitted locks, triggers, and barrels. They make a Jaeger rifle in 54 caliber which if you squint and swap out the steel furniture for brass could pass as a Baker rifle if you really tried. I mean the British did base their Baker off the German Jaeger rifle. Their Scout rifle is is similar in length and style to the Baker rifle, just smaller calibers 32, 45, and 50 calibers. I used to think Pedersoli's were insanely expensive and some do get very expensive but they have a wide list of options in their range. Their Kentucky and Penn rifles, as kits anyhow, are very reasonable and don't take long to build. Their trade gun as a kit is $1000, good luck finding another smooth bore kit for that kind of money and quality. Nothing against Kibler, I like their kits. However if you wanted to get a Kibler kit that would be equivalent to a Pedersoli kit you will spend a lot more money when compared to a similar Pedersoli product, at least for a 32, 45, or 50 cal rifle. Their 54 cal rifles do cost a bit more even as a kit. I think their Jaeger rifle at Dixie Gun works is like $1200 as a kit. Would have to check their site.
 
I just finished a TRS Baker copy and is very complicated.

I bet that Pedersoli takes liberties to save money. They do that a lot. Recall their flintlock double? I doubt it will be a true copy to the original . An obvious thing that Pedersoli does is the super long chambered breech plugs. They really hurt reliability. I suspect lawyers make them do it. Another is that the trigger guard is secured to the hooked breech tang via a vertical tang extension. That is hard to fit and odd. The thumbpiece brass is a nut for another trigger guard bolt. That probably need to be hand fit.

We will have to wait and see what they do.
 
I posted this on another thread but will ad it here where it is probably more relevant for anyone that might be interested:
And he'll put a pretty premium on them too.

Some Pedersoli guns have gone up 50% since he bought the business from Forbes.
 
Depends on the Pedersoli a lot of their rifles are very reasonable for the high quality you get. They are a lot cheaper as a kit to and their kits come with finished actions, generally have blued barrels, fitted locks, triggers, and barrels. They make a Jaeger rifle in 54 caliber which if you squint and swap out the steel furniture for brass could pass as a Baker rifle if you really tried. I mean the British did base their Baker off the German Jaeger rifle. Their Scout rifle is is similar in length and style to the Baker rifle, just smaller calibers 32, 45, and 50 calibers. I used to think Pedersoli's were insanely expensive and some do get very expensive but they have a wide list of options in their range. Their Kentucky and Penn rifles, as kits anyhow, are very reasonable and don't take long to build. Their trade gun as a kit is $1000, good luck finding another smooth bore kit for that kind of money and quality. Nothing against Kibler, I like their kits. However if you wanted to get a Kibler kit that would be equivalent to a Pedersoli kit you will spend a lot more money when compared to a similar Pedersoli product, at least for a 32, 45, or 50 cal rifle. Their 54 cal rifles do cost a bit more even as a kit. I think their Jaeger rifle at Dixie Gun works is like $1200 as a kit. Would have to check their site.
I agree don't get me wrong Pedersoli is a fine gun. I really like the trade gun and several other Pedersolis but, their kit guns all cost close to if not more than Kibler's or Chambers etc and for that I chosen to go with a Kibler. The baker rifle is going to bring a premium no matter the maker.
 
I agree don't get me wrong Pedersoli is a fine gun. I really like the trade gun and several other Pedersolis but, their kit guns all cost close to if not more than Kibler's or Chambers etc and for that I chosen to go with a Kibler. The baker rifle is going to bring a premium no matter the maker.
I looked at Kibler's site. Their kits look great and I'm speculating here. I only built a one Pedersoli kit thus far being their Scout Rifle. From Kibler's website For builders of contemporary flintlock long rifles every one of their rifles you automatically have to add an extra $300 for the lock. I don't know if this is true of all Pedersonli kits, it was of mine and all the ones i saw picture so, they come with the ramrod thimbles pinned in, butt plate screwed on, trigger guard was half screwed on I had to drill one hole for the rear screw, and the nose cap was pinned too as was the barrel. Kibler will sell you a fitted kit where you have to finish sanding the stock and blue the metal. That's an extra $700. Again, never owned one, just reading what their website says. I am sure a finished Kibler kit will be way nicer than a comparable finished Pedersoli kit like their Kentucky or Pennsylvania rifle. It will cost a lot more, especially if you want the in the white option.
 
Depends on the Pedersoli a lot of their rifles are very reasonable for the high quality you get. They are a lot cheaper as a kit to and their kits come with finished actions, generally have blued barrels, fitted locks, triggers, and barrels. They make a Jaeger rifle in 54 caliber which if you squint and swap out the steel furniture for brass could pass as a Baker rifle if you really tried. I mean the British did base their Baker off the German Jaeger rifle. Their Scout rifle is is similar in length and style to the Baker rifle, just smaller calibers 32, 45, and 50 calibers. I used to think Pedersoli's were insanely expensive and some do get very expensive but they have a wide list of options in their range. Their Kentucky and Penn rifles, as kits anyhow, are very reasonable and don't take long to build. Their trade gun as a kit is $1000, good luck finding another smooth bore kit for that kind of money and quality. Nothing against Kibler, I like their kits. However if you wanted to get a Kibler kit that would be equivalent to a Pedersoli kit you will spend a lot more money when compared to a similar Pedersoli product, at least for a 32, 45, or 50 cal rifle. Their 54 cal rifles do cost a bit more even as a kit. I think their Jaeger rifle at Dixie Gun works is like $1200 as a kit. Would have to check their site.
No they are not Worth what they are asking. They're just Greedy Jerks who gives you a mediocre rifle and says it's Quality. I have a few and they're not worth what I paid.
 
I like my pedersoli double rifle. .58 barrels cross at 70 yds with prb and 80 gr ff. Each barrel will give groups of 2 1/2-3 at 50 yards. Triggers are a bit stiffer than I like but repolishing the interior of the locks smoothed them out (a guy I know tried to lighten them a lot and, with both hammers back, would fire the left a split second after the right). Nice wood, nice finish and bluing. Kind of a foolish sight (a proper 2 leaf would be better). Great gun, not cheap, but surprisingly good (regulating the barrels was well done).
 
Just found out on another forum that Pedersoli is planning on producing a copy of the Baker rifle.According to the poster on the other forum he had heard rumours that Pedersoli had purchased a couple of original Baker rifles for templates.When he contacted Pedersoli they confirmed they will bemaking them sometime in 2023 and they will be available world wide.

People have been saying that for nearly 7-10 years now.

I do know that pedersoli purchased all of Euroarms old patterns and was considering brining back an 1803 rifle, would make sense since they have the pistol which was a very popular rifle for a long time.
 
Just got a reply from Pedersoli, I asked for release date and whether they would use the original 62 calibre. see response below.

I confirm our next project is the Baker rifle, it will be most probably available in 2024, but any forecast is set, yet.
Too early to say, which caliber will be.
I assume it will be the most popular for this rifle.
Best regards,
Customer service

Edit, I replied to ask if it will have traditional rear folding sight. Will update on reply.
 
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