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Will the new powder from GOEX be better than the old powder? And will it be more expensive to purchase?
 
How can a person know if it is better until it is available on the shelves and folks can use it and nothing goes down in price.

Remember they had to rebuild the plant and meet all the Govt. compliance requirements to get it on the shelves and the distributors have to make a profit.
 
Stantheman86 said:
In all reality, an ammo can full of 5.56 is probably a lifetime supply after a "catastrophe" because either you'll fire 1 or 2 rounds here and there to hunt, or defend yourself, or you're going to be mag dumping in an effort to take as many of the people who are rushing into your house to take everything you've hoarded with you to the afterlife as you can. Once the "masses" know you have food and resources, it's pretty much game over for you unless you happen to be in a very remote area that you can defend and make distance your friend until they learn to go somewhere else.

Your best bet is to hide what you got and be another malnourished "grey man" with nothing.

50lb sealed and waterproofed bags of Quick Oats and sealed tubs of peanut butter hidden all over are worth more than 500lb of black powder. I can't eat Goex, or ammunition.

I've said it before and caught heat but you're better off with a little pocket pistol that you can carry or stash somewhere. You want to look as innocuous as possible.
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We live in about the perfect shtf friendly place surrounded by a few hundred thousand acres of wilderness. Let me tell you I pray nothing like that ever happens to our country, our world. We’d be fine but life would become so much harder than people really believe. My grandparents and parents lived the Great Depression, land rich and cash poor. It’s true what they say about hard times making strong people. Very few Americans born in the last few decades understand what shtf would mean.

And yeah the only good reason to hoard Blackpowder is to shoot it up with friends and family.
 
Uncle Miltie said:
Will the new powder from GOEX be better than the old powder? And will it be more expensive to purchase?
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No way to know if it will be better, worse, or equal. I’m hoping they’ll look across the pond and try to produce something equal to Swiss rather than the same old same old. I do have a few pounds of Old Eynsford and it’s proof that they can compete.
As far as cost? I’ll bet it costs around $30.00 per pound like any good powder.
 
FishDFly said:
How can a person know if it is better until it is available on the shelves and folks can use it and nothing goes down in price.

Remember they had to rebuild the plant and meet all the Govt. compliance requirements to get it on the shelves and the distributors have to make a profit.
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I did not think anyone would have a definitive answer to my question as no one has received any new powder from GOEX.

But I do remember the horrible powder that was made after their move to Minden in the '90's. And I remember the case of Cartridge powder I threw away because it was so bad. So I suppose once new GOEX powder is available if it is not better or cheaper than the other brands out there why will folks buy it?
 
Bad Karma said:
We live in about the perfect shtf friendly place surrounded by a few hundred thousand acres of wilderness. Let me tell you I pray nothing like that ever happens to our country, our world. We’d be fine but life would become so much harder than people really believe. My grandparents and parents lived the Great Depression, land rich and cash poor. It’s true what they say about hard times making strong people. Very few Americans born in the last few decades understand what shtf would mean.

And yeah the only good reason to hoard Blackpowder is to shoot it up with friends and family.
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I live in a medium sized town but my parents house is my "fall back point " since it is out in the middle of nowhere. I tell them , I'll bring the food and you keep the ammo and "real" guns here 😀

Unfortunately if I have to bug out , the "goblins" will get into my safe and arm themselves with various muskets , muzzleloading rifles and a bunch of cap and ballers but I'll hide the caps really good so they can't easily load anything 😄

If they come out to where I'm at I'll get my stuff back later , when looters armed with Parker-Hale Enfields are found laying in the woods
 
Uncle Miltie said:
Will the new powder from GOEX be better than the old powder? And will it be more expensive to purchase?
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If they use the same formula, it shouldn't be too far off quality of what was sold before.
I don't seeing Goex being any cheaper.
They have to spend millions of dollars getting the plant & distribution network running again.
 
harleynut said:
Shuetzen to dirty ??? Much better powder than Goex by a long shot! Proof is in the pudding i burn up about 1.5 -2lbs a month. Most likley using a poor patch lube !!
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I totally agree....I spend 6-7 minutes cleaning each gun using Schuetzen.
I never got any of my guns cleaned within 20-25 minutes using Goex....stuff is nasty to clean.
I still have a few pounds of Goex left and quit shooting it when I found
Schuetzen works just as well & is much easier to clean afterwards.
I wish Goex all the best, but, I'll stick with Schuetzen & Swiss.
It works great for me and is available.
 
Uncle Miltie said:
So I suppose once new GOEX powder is available if it is not better or cheaper than the other brands out there why will folks buy it?
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Yes...they will buy it.....because of the brand name.
Whether shooters will buy that 2nd pound depends on how well it is made this time.
Quality should be Estes TOP priority in redistribution.
If they don't produce quality, they will suffer & should stick with making rocket powder.
 
Schuetzen is just fine, I use their 2F and have fired 50+ Minie Balls with no bore wiping many times

I think some people are just over complicating something with their shooting
 
BrantWW said:
How are people selling black powder at gun shows at all? To sell black powder in the USA, one must have an explosives license.
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Maybe he does have a license and just brought stuff to put out on his table. I've seen BP at gunshows in PA, but maybe not in great quantities; maybe a can or two.
 
Stantheman86 said:
As long as you're not "hoarding " to gouge or resell, who cares. If you've got $1000 to blow on 50lb of Blackpowder , stack it deep.

Either you're gonna shoot it and enjoy it or your family will hock it when you die, probably back to a gun shop that sells blackpowder.

I just bought 200 Minie balls , I'm an ammunition hoarder 😀
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At a small gun show years ago a widow was selling off nice BP stuff; molds, etc. very cheaply. We really do need to do a "life inventory" as we age!
 
springfield art said:
Maybe he does have a license and just brought stuff to put out on his table. I've seen BP at gunshows in PA, but maybe not in great quantities; maybe a can or two.
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It's called "no one in authority cares" about Elmer selling some rusty cans of DuPont at a PA gun show , heck half the cans of powder sold at rural PA shows probably go to cops and State Troopers 😀
 
springfield art said:
At a small gun show years ago a widow was selling off nice BP stuff; molds, etc. very cheaply. We really do need to do a "life inventory" as we age!
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