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Colt 1860 Vs Remington New Model thread is closed, so here is another opinion

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You got to be kidding! HAZMAT for toy caps? Let me guess there is a surgeon generals warning on candy cigarettes now.
Everywhere I checked has the $35 fee for toy caps, I'm like I'll just hunt them down at a store just on principal, I'm not paying a fee and signing for toy caps made for little key chain cap guns
 
I'm not sure I'm tracking with you. Are you saying there is a .040 gap at the end of the arbor and bottom of the well or that the arbor itself is .040 to long in the well ? That would mean the key would not go in fully, no?
Been meaning to ask you how the "experiment" was going, its been a while . . .

Mike

Ps, my '60 with the 45acp is an EXCELLENT test bed for ammo in the "upper end ammo" area. Solid as a rock!!!
 
Been meaning to ask you how the "experiment" was going, its been a while . . .

Mike

Ps, my '60 with the 45acp is an EXCELLENT test bed for ammo in the "upper end ammo" area. Solid as a rock!!!
Those conversion cylinders caught my eye. Are they picky with case trim length? I would imagine they would need taper crimped and fairly uniform to function reliably.
 
Been meaning to ask you how the "experiment" was going, its been a while . . .

Mike

Ps, my '60 with the 45acp is an EXCELLENT test bed for ammo in the "upper end ammo" area. Solid as a rock!!!
The Centear 60 is finished and ready for bench testing , my 60 is ready for the Ransom rest with a bit more work on the Ransom grip adaptors.
I need to mill out the 3/16s metal exteriors on the adaptors and mold fit to the grip frame on the interiors, then to the range for the shooting..
Mine will be Ransom rest tested as is and again after fitting the arbor end.
Both are side projects to several rifle builds going on presently. May be next spring for the actual testing.
 
Those conversion cylinders caught my eye. Are they picky with case trim length? I would imagine they would need taper crimped and fairly uniform to function reliably.
Absolutely not!! Any "off the shelf" ammo will work. The Uberti cylinders are slightly shorter so the best option is the Pietta cyl for "belt pistols ". They allow use of "factory fodder". Reloads made to "norm" will work just fine!!

( meaning you can fit a Pietta cyl to an Uberti revolver)

Mike
 
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Absolutely not!! Any "off the shelf" ammo will work. The Uberti cylinders are slightly shorter so the best option is the Pietta cyl for "belt pistols ". They allow use of "factory fodder". Reloads made to "norm" will work just fine!!

( meaning you can fit a Pietta cyl to an Uberti revolver)

Mike
I saw that the gated kits from Kirst are on sale right now for the '60 for $350. I am torn between having a bigger case to stuff full of black powder (45 Colt) or load smokeless in 45 ACP. I have a ridiculous amount of 45 ACP brass and very little 45 Colt. Also looks like Colt brass is hard to get now.....

I have an old R&D 45 Colt cylinder right now but really hate reloading it!
 
I saw that the gated kits from Kirst are on sale right now for the '60 for $350. I am torn between having a bigger case to stuff full of black powder (45 Colt) or load smokeless in 45 ACP. I have a ridiculous amount of 45 ACP brass and very little 45 Colt. Also looks like Colt brass is hard to get now.....

I have an old R&D 45 Colt cylinder right now but really hate reloading it!


I'd go for the 45acp conversion. You can always just get the 45C cylinder to add to it later ( if things get back to " norm").

Mike
 
Everywhere I checked has the $35 fee for toy caps, I'm like I'll just hunt them down at a store just on principal, I'm not paying a fee and signing for toy caps made for little key chain cap guns
I turned a set of my Pietta cones down to work with No 10 CCI caps. I have 300 of those to burn up so hopefully they work! I made some of those beer can caps with the prime all compound. They work good except on my caplock rifle the hammer hits them hard and square enough that it cuts a perfect circle of aluminum that falls into the nipple. Have to dig that out every time. Planning on trying some brass and copper material to see if that will work better. They seem to be plenty hot! Just bought a flintlock rifle so that will save some caps also! ;)
 
I turned a set of my Pietta cones down to work with No 10 CCI caps. I have 300 of those to burn up so hopefully they work! I made some of those beer can caps with the prime all compound. They work good except on my caplock rifle the hammer hits them hard and square enough that it cuts a perfect circle of aluminum that falls into the nipple. Have to dig that out every time. Planning on trying some brass and copper material to see if that will work better. They seem to be plenty hot! Just bought a flintlock rifle so that will save some caps also! ;)
It's far easier to stock up on flints, especially the huge musket flints . I must have like 20 of them and I barely shoot my .69 Flinters. I go through at least one per range trip , plus I'm usually starting the day with a half used up flint that I've already turned around in the jaws, so I get to practice "field flint replacement "

Plus 1F is usually in stock, and .65 round balls. People don't hoard musket powder and the large round balls . I almost need to at least set up to cast .648 balls because buying someone else's cast balls is about 50 cents a pop
 
Yeah, and you can make them out of anything you can find to melt down, hard, soft or in between!
Metal that's so junked up that it won't fill out lube grooves without wrinkles will still make beautiful .65 round ball. And hard ball actually shoots well in the rifled 1847 Fremont.
 
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About the 1860 versus the 1858, I love them just as much as any other percussion revolver.
This winter I have a brass frame 1860 reproduction to brown and a Pietta 1858 large frame .36 to get turned into something like maybe a .43, to use .44 Special / .44 Mag molds.
 
I guess you could put a slow burn fuse on your hammer and have a revolver matchlock. Then chain fires would no longer be a mystery. :D

I just stocked up on everything to make my own powder. So far it is shooting really well and always have 1F to 4FFFF in stock!
 
I turned a set of my Pietta cones down to work with No 10 CCI caps. I have 300 of those to burn up so hopefully they work! I made some of those beer can caps with the prime all compound. They work good except on my caplock rifle the hammer hits them hard and square enough that it cuts a perfect circle of aluminum that falls into the nipple. Have to dig that out every time. Planning on trying some brass and copper material to see if that will work better. They seem to be plenty hot! Just bought a flintlock rifle so that will save some caps also! ;)
Where did you source the prime all?
 
A question please, and don't turn this into whats better. I'm talking about long term value for my heirs. A while ago my good buddy and I decided to take a couple of pistols out of our bulk buy. They are all originals and in mostly great shape. He already took a 1849 and a 1860. I took a 1849 and still have a pick coming. I don't know if I should take a 4 screw 1860 or a 1863 govt contact New Army Remington, I'm having a hard time deciding. I'm only thinking about the value when my two Son's get my estate. All numbers and condition match in both, and both could be shooters.
 

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