I'm currently sitting at the NMRLA state championship and hawkin and renagade type rifles are allowed.
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Hawken Rifles, What's All The Hoopla?!
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That's great to know! Thanks. Makes me want to get my old Renegade out, hasn't been shot in a while.
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A real genuine Hawken?
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Not to mention it was featured in a Redford movie....that always rings the popularity bell
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Large scale commerical is probably pedersoli.
Lyman great plains is ok.
If you can find a don stitch kit set and have someone build it or build it yourself, that'd be the way to go.
If you can find a grrw commemorative Hawken for sale .. that would be A ok too
Snake Pleskin
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I have two Lyman GPR's a Capper and A Flinter I'm building now. They are fine rifles. If i do my part, the flinter will be every bit as nice as my capper!!
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I personally have never had a great love for Hawkens. I've owned a few through trades over the years, and I think I only shot one of them before passing them on.
The first deer I ever shot in Montana years ago, was with an original full stock Hawken, that had been converted to caplock. I also shot an original half stock that a member of the historical society owned. A Hawken built to original specs is a heavy old pig, best suited to horseback use.
They came into the fur trade at a pretty late date, and as has been mentioned, there are other rifles that were more common. The newer bastardized so-called Hawkens should have been called something else, as they have little resemblance to the original name sake.
The first deer I ever shot in Montana years ago, was with an original full stock Hawken, that had been converted to caplock. I also shot an original half stock that a member of the historical society owned. A Hawken built to original specs is a heavy old pig, best suited to horseback use.
They came into the fur trade at a pretty late date, and as has been mentioned, there are other rifles that were more common. The newer bastardized so-called Hawkens should have been called something else, as they have little resemblance to the original name sake.
Snake Pleskin
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There are a few Hawkens produced that are much closer to originals. None of the TC,TVA, Traditions ones are based on real Hawken's, IMHO
I would love to see some side by side comparisons, Google just shows mostly new types.
A lot of experts say this. Can you describe the differences? Did T/C etc improve on the design concept?
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T/C definitely did NOT improve on the concept. Their rifle in no way resembles a true Hawken rifle. The easiest way to see the differences is to Google Hawken rifles. There will be photos of originals, authentic reproductions and many, many photos of T/C's so-called "Hawkens". Or, you can go to GunBroker.com and search the black powder section. Again, you'll easily spot the differences including the price difference between authentic repros and the wannabees.
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The HawkenShop has the real deal continuing from the 1820's
Www.thehawkenshop.com
Www.thehawkenshop.com
Hawken is Hollywood Hype IMHO
Rock Home Isle
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These are the guns that I enjoy…half stock rifles look nice, I’ve used them for most of my life, shooting black powder. But my real joy is a solidly built, full-stock Early Plains Rifle…Percussion would be ok; however, flintlock would be the Cat’s Meow.
Everything I have pictured below is going to be a 9lbs to 10lbs rifle, possibly more. I much prefer a hunting rifle in the 6 1/2 lbs to 7 1/2 lbs range. That would entail a full stock rifle in .54 calibre, 30“ to 36”, 15/16ths strait barrel…that would be the ideal big game hunting rifle.
Everything I have pictured below is going to be a 9lbs to 10lbs rifle, possibly more. I much prefer a hunting rifle in the 6 1/2 lbs to 7 1/2 lbs range. That would entail a full stock rifle in .54 calibre, 30“ to 36”, 15/16ths strait barrel…that would be the ideal big game hunting rifle.
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Snake Pleskin
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Browning made a really good one and the Lyman GPR is close. Since Hawken's were hand made there are no 2 that are exactly alike.
DuncNZ
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The Browning is not a Hawken Copy , It is intended to be a copy of the first rifle J M Browning made . Browning has only made replicas of rifles designed by Browning and not other designers or manufacturers .
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There is no such animal. Each individual is drawn to their favorite of form and function. It depends on what time period your most fond of, what size game your after, and most importantly, how big your wallet is.
