Broken rod

Newtothemuzzle · Aug 2, 2022

So I’m pretty new to muzzle loading but I bought a pedersoli .50 cal percussion Kentucky long gun tore it apart and cleaned it and I’ve done so twice now and today the ramrod I build came apart about 6 inches from the end of barrel even so I can’t grab the wood I’ve now soaked the powder behind the ball with WD40 and ran dish soap and PB blaster down so pretty sure there’s no shooting it out not sure what I can do done some investigating on removing the breech plug but not sure I’m skilled enough

Kansas Jake · Aug 3, 2022

Does it have a jag with a patch on the end? If so ther are several threads on removing a patched ball and the process is the same with compressed air or a grease gun. Search stuck ball.

Daryl Crawford · Aug 3, 2022

Well, I need more info. What is down the barrel? Powder? How much? Ball? What is on the end of your ram rod?
Search removing a stuck ball on this site. Using a grease gun works. You can drive the contents of the barrel out then the cleaning begins.

maillemaker · Aug 3, 2022

You can try a CO2 discharger. It's a handy kit to have in your range bag to clear fouled guns anyway.

Larry (Omaha) · Aug 3, 2022

Newtothemuzzle said:
So I’m pretty new to muzzle loading but I bought a pedersoli .50 cal percussion Kentucky long gun tore it apart and cleaned it and I’ve done so twice now and today the ramrod I build came apart about 6 inches from the end of barrel even so I can’t grab the wood I’ve now soaked the powder behind the ball with WD40 and ran dish soap and PB blaster down so pretty sure there’s no shooting it out not sure what I can do done some investigating on removing the breech plug but not sure I’m skilled enough

Just blow it out with air or CO2 as others have suggested. Breech plug removal is not what U should do! Whatever source of energy you use, make sure the seal is good at the nipple or TH. Point the gun in a safe direction when doing this!!
Larry

springfield art · Aug 3, 2022

Newtothemuzzle said:
So I’m pretty new to muzzle loading but I bought a pedersoli .50 cal percussion Kentucky long gun tore it apart and cleaned it and I’ve done so twice now and today the ramrod I build came apart about 6 inches from the end of barrel even so I can’t grab the wood I’ve now soaked the powder behind the ball with WD40 and ran dish soap and PB blaster down so pretty sure there’s no shooting it out not sure what I can do done some investigating on removing the breech plug but not sure I’m skilled enough

Maybe drizzle a small amt. of powder into the breech with the nipple off. Then replace nipple, fire off a cap, and it will pop out, hopefully. Just don't use too much powder, don't want to cause a problem considering the rod is a bore obstruction. Sure to be other suggestions here!

rafterob · Aug 3, 2022

If I understand your post correctly, it was loaded and somehow the ramrod broke off inside the barrel. You should have just shot it out at the time. When you solve this problem and make a new ramrod be sure to choose a nice ramrod blank with little or no grain runout. I order 6 whenever I order any and lucky to have 2 nice ones. The rest are used as dowels in various projects. Also be sure to pin and glue the tips to the rod. Get a metal range rod and use that for most of your needs. The wood rod is just for looks and use out in the field.

Rifleman1776 · Aug 3, 2022

wat Rafterob said. Except, do consider Delrin for both a carry and range rod. Also get a good hickory rod for when you need to look as pc as possible.

maillemaker · Aug 3, 2022

rafterob said:
If I understand your post correctly, it was loaded and somehow the ramrod broke off inside the barrel. You should have just shot it out at the time.

It sounds like it was charged, but the ball got stuck 6" down the barrel. I don't think I would try to shoot that out with a normal charge. That's a bore obstruction.

ohio ramrod · Aug 3, 2022

I second the idea of replacing the nipple with a grease fitting and pumping it out. Messy but safe.

SDSmlf · Aug 3, 2022

ohio ramrod said:
I second the idea of replacing the nipple with a grease fitting and pumping it out. Messy but safe.

The grease fitting method is not that messy. Check out this @Idaho Ron video for getting a stuck bullet out. It will work for a ramrod tip stuck on top of a roundball load. Once the ramrod tip, ball and powder charge are out of the bore, remove the nipple from the barrel, then use a snug fitting jag and cleaning patch to push the grease out the barrel through the threaded nipple hole. Just like in the video.

N.Y. Yankee · Aug 4, 2022

I had a jag stuck in the bottom of my .54 barrel. Fortunately, I work at a tractor repair shop. I used the shop air hose and blow gun with a rubber tip on it. Removed the nipple, pushed the tip into the hole and hit the lever. The jag came flying out across the shop and dented an aluminum overhead door. The air will work but make sure the muzzle is pointed in a safe direction.

Mr. Flintlock · Aug 4, 2022

rafterob said:
If I understand your post correctly, it was loaded and somehow the ramrod broke off inside the barrel. You should have just shot it out at the time. When you solve this problem and make a new ramrod be sure to choose a nice ramrod blank with little or no grain runout. I order 6 whenever I order any and lucky to have 2 nice ones. The rest are used as dowels in various projects. Also be sure to pin and glue the tips to the rod. Get a metal range rod and use that for most of your needs. The wood rod is just for looks and use out in the field.

Good way to blow up a rifle. I've seen it first hand.

rafterob · Aug 4, 2022

I maybe incorrectly assumed the load was pushed all the way down. Thanks to others for pointing out the scenario that it was a short started load.

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