Pandemic Auction Revolver "Phenomena"

Stantheman86 · Jun 14, 2022

kh54 said:
If by “collectible” you mean only guns (or anything for that matter) that will increase in value because of some inherent quality, then I may agree with you. On the other hand, anything is collectible. I “collect” reproductions because they allow me to have representative examples of many of the pre-ACW and ACW period guns that are my primary interest. I could never afford to have originals of the 30 or so guns in my collection. I do, however, appreciate quality, so I have tried to by 2nd generation revolvers when they are reasonably priced and I have four, I think - but who counts? I have bought three Parker Hale Enfields but my defarbed Armi Sport P1853 is more accurate than the PHs and cost me about $400 less. I also have two Mirokus and I think they are desirable for their accuracy and appearance, so they’re collectible, no?

I watch Gunbroker and I’ve made some pretty good deals, but I do a lot of looking. I’ve noticed that good deals on 2nd gens that three years ago were selling for $400-$500 are now closer to $750 and up. You’re right, though, the 2nd gens priced at much more than that do languish.

These people with 2nd Gen Dragoons that have been fired are not getting $1400 for them on GB

It's more of a case of, let me list my stuff on GB for some sucker lotto ticket price and see what happens

Collectible, to me, is an item that is desirable and will hold or gain value

With ArmiSport having churned out more repro muskets than can even be counted over the decades , and continuing to do so, only affected by COVID, they won't be "collectible" as far as the market

With only 9000 P-H's being made. Honestly, few people even care. The market just considers them another repop.

I just sold a well used , shooter grade original 61 Springfield for $900 here on the boards and the guy was apparently unhappy , because I guess he expected it to become a museum piece while in transit. So who knows, it's always tricky when it's time to sell

gunpa · Jun 14, 2022

Snake Pleskin said:
Could not agree more! I buy to shoot, not to resell at some exorbitant price everyone complains about when others do it! Everyone whines about high prices until they want to sell their items. Suddenly high prices are OK!

Couldn't agree more. I tell my wife guns are "money in the bank" or a " great investment"! I'm a bad husband! I buy to shoot! Period!

sheriff john · Jun 14, 2022

With more "projects" acquired over the last 60 years, I've found that junk remains junk - even if I can sell them for more than I paid. Good items have gone up - some way up. Market fluctuates accordinmg to the age group with expendable income and what turns their crank.

"Commemoratives" - created from the get-go to be "collector items" are a prime example regardless whether it's a gun or a repo something else.

PluggedNickel · Sunday at 11:12 PM

sourdough said:
To premise, I watch GunBroker on a daily basis to see what is being offered. Since the pandemic started about a year ago, I have seen a steady rapid decline in the numbers of new(er) revolvers from Pietta and Uberti. That, it seems, has led to the rise of more older, obscure, and damaged revolvers showing up since the new supply has basically dried up. I, for one, enjoy seeing what folks have kept in their possession all this time, which seems to have signaled a window where these guns can be sold now due to an addiction which I will term as "buyer withdrawal", whereas in "normal" times few would have paid a passing glance at these guns.

I think there is a new mindset happening with some folks thinking that Italian production will either slow to a future crawl or maybe even cease altogether.

In that case, all the Italian revolvers produced from the late 50's until present are now a new collector area, just like the Colt 2nd Gen, 3rd, gen, and Colt Blackpowder Products revolvers are, only there are so very many different variations of them it will be a chore (and a challenge) to list them all. Dr. Jim L. Davis tried to start that up about 15 years ago with the RPRCA (Replica Percussion Revolver Collector Association) but he was really only on his own in doing so, and it died when he passed in September 2019, and his collection was sold off, but that is another story.

Regards,

Jim

Geez, someone didn’t understand that the crown is the last thing that will determine the bullets flight as it leaves the barrel of a revolver. Looks like someone used that one as a hammer! YIKES

PluggedNickel · Sunday at 11:13 PM

FishDFly said:
Wonder how the end of the barrel on pistol No. 1 got flared?

Bet it's really accurate.

Sam squanch · Monday at 8:15 AM

A lot of the cap and ball craze is the onset of medical marijuana licensing. You can’t have a modern gun under federal law with one. So they get a “antique “ to shoot.

vintovka · Monday at 9:45 AM

Sam squanch said:
A lot of the cap and ball craze is the onset of medical marijuana licensing. You can’t have a modern gun under federal law with one. So they get a “antique “ to shoot.

Lying on a 4473 is a known felony. This may be "money in the bank" for prosecutors. Even insurance companies from home to workman's compensation have an interest in watching pot users.

Bad Karma · Monday at 11:21 AM

Under this administration there’s no way they would prosecute for that particular offense. They love drug users almost as much as they love illegal aliens.

vintovka · Monday at 11:26 AM

Bad Karma said:
Under this administration there’s no way they would prosecute for that particular offense. They love drug users almost as much as they love illegal aliens.

So a sharp fed attorney with access wouldn't lay that additional charge if they felt needed??

springfield art · Monday at 11:29 AM

sourdough said:
To premise, I watch GunBroker on a daily basis to see what is being offered. Since the pandemic started about a year ago, I have seen a steady rapid decline in the numbers of new(er) revolvers from Pietta and Uberti. That, it seems, has led to the rise of more older, obscure, and damaged revolvers showing up since the new supply has basically dried up. I, for one, enjoy seeing what folks have kept in their possession all this time, which seems to have signaled a window where these guns can be sold now due to an addiction which I will term as "buyer withdrawal", whereas in "normal" times few would have paid a passing glance at these guns.

I think there is a new mindset happening with some folks thinking that Italian production will either slow to a future crawl or maybe even cease altogether.

In that case, all the Italian revolvers produced from the late 50's until present are now a new collector area, just like the Colt 2nd Gen, 3rd, gen, and Colt Blackpowder Products revolvers are, only there are so very many different variations of them it will be a chore (and a challenge) to list them all. Dr. Jim L. Davis tried to start that up about 15 years ago with the RPRCA (Replica Percussion Revolver Collector Association) but he was really only on his own in doing so, and it died when he passed in September 2019, and his collection was sold off, but that is another story.

Regards,

Jim

The Coyote dropped it off a cliff onto the speeding Road Runner, and it conked muzzle-first into the highway blacktop. (How the muzzle became flared)

springfield art · Monday at 11:36 AM

I simply thing that the long-gone covid panic and shutdowns, having resulted in an ammo and gun shortage in general, drove many into the percussion marketplace as an alternative.

springfield art · Monday at 11:37 AM

Mulebrain said:
I walked into a pawn shop a while back, and in the case was a brand new Pietta 1860. They were having a hard time selling it, so I got it for 135.00

How "while back" was that? 1981?

Bad Karma · Monday at 11:39 AM

vintovka said:
So a sharp fed attorney with access wouldn't lay that additional charge if they felt needed??

Anything is possible. I suspect, but if they’re of a favored group it’s doubtful.

azmntman · Monday at 11:53 AM

I buy to shoot. First BP I ever sold online as here. a 185__ something three band I wanted to shoot cuz it was cool. Cool got less and sold for $500.00 which was near what I paid when I bought it from Cabela's in the 90's. First post in my listing was "that guns worth way more than that". I Pm'd the guy and suggested he buy it and resell but I wanted my $500.00. Sold to LE guy in Yuma who actually bought another gun I was selling too, so sold w/o even listing. I'm here for the fun not the funD. Figure if I can get at least my money back and let someone else have some cool then we all better off.

vintovka · Monday at 12:21 PM

springfield art said:
I simply thing that the long-gone covid panic and shutdowns, having resulted in an ammo and gun shortage in general, drove many into the percussion marketplace as an alternative.

Isn't it funny how "shortages" and "bans" work as ultimate marketing tools?

sportster73hp · Monday at 2:07 PM

Never smoked cigarettes or pot just tires and black powder .

springfield art · Monday at 3:15 PM

vintovka said:
Isn't it funny how "shortages" and "bans" work as ultimate marketing tools?

A recent article in Firearms News posited that another powder and ammo shortage is in the works; (powder being modern reloading stuff). I already sense guys starting to stock up once again. It only takes one published nationally distributed article to start the cycle all over again.

springfield art · Monday at 3:19 PM

vintovka said:
Lying on a 4473 is a known felony. This may be "money in the bank" for prosecutors. Even insurance companies from home to workman's compensation have an interest in watching pot users.

Yeah. They say pot is 'legal' in many areas, but it's not legal Federally. So if you want to fill out 4473's, don't also have a "pot smokers" card or 'doctor's ID"; better yet, learn to enjoy legal things like fine bourbon or scotch!

vintovka · Monday at 4:54 PM

springfield art said:
Yeah. They say pot is 'legal' in many areas, but it's not legal Federally. So if you want to fill out 4473's, don't also have a "pot smokers" card or 'doctor's ID"; better yet, learn to enjoy legal things like fine bourbon or scotch!

Dumbest ones buy their pot with CC's allowing for faster tracking to firearm purchases. States with secondary background checks may be quicker yet, if not instantly flagged, and report directly to 3 letter agencies. Our little town just got its first traffic cam. This allegedly for plate reading only (right?). Its right in front of strip mall with a pot shop. Maybe tin foil over plates and face may help???

azmntman · 2024-04-23T12:03:44-0400

If I was still a "head" I'd show up disguised with cash, walk with a limp etc. still a federal crime here too but conviction when you buy from a State regulated/taxed dispensary might be though. Glad those days are behind me. Taking that first puff is one of the top five things I wouldn't do again if I could!

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