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As for your question, shootistjack, My only smoothbore is a 20ga/.62. It's great on deer and very accurate. How accurate? Well I've shot many 3-shot groups at 50 yds measuring from just under 2" to around 2.85". That's as far as I've fired it but wouldn't hesitate to take shots at 60 yards or a bit more. I load it with a patched .600" ball the same as a rifle.
 
I did contract work as a trapper/predator controller for Colorado Division of Wildlife (before they combined with Parks dept). I carried a .50 Hawken . Not because I had to, but because the rifle was a tack driver out past 200 yards loaded with .490 round ball, patched with a .010 patch coated with 50|50 bees wax and buffalo suet, and pushed by 90 grains of FFg. I'd had it for years after I built it, and was VERY familiar with it, and I could shoot about 100 rounds through it for about the same cost of a box of 20 rounds for my .30-06, and less than a box of 20 for my .300 Win Magnum.
During the years I contracted with them, I shot coyotes, fox, bobcat, cougar, and black bear. For myself during that time, I shot jackrabbits, cottontail rabbits, mule deer, elk, cougar, coyotes, and black bear.
I found the rifle to be plenty good medicine for any of those critters. It's all about shot placement, and realizing that a round ball has no shock power (kinda like shootin a bow). For backup, especially for dangerous critters, I carried a .50 CVA Mountain Pistol that I built from a kit. I loaded it with 90 grains FFg and a 375 grain Maxi-ball. Kicked like a mule, but was definitely good for close work.
A body can certainly go bigger caliber if it makes you feel more at ease, but I always found that a half inch hole was plenty big to properly ventilate hearts, lungs, livers, or brains. I even ventilated a few spines. I'm kinda partial of goin after the boiler room unless I'm right on top of em. Then a brain pan shot does the trick great.
 
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NCHAWKEYE, Did you get a new .40 cal barrel and did you discard the .45 barrel?

HOMESTEADER, I'm going to look into a "poor boy" and thanks for your post.

"poor boy" is our term for a fairly simple rifle. Simple iron fittings (maybe a little brass), no butt-plate, nothing on the nose... This is mine: 44" swamped & tapered barrel, full maple stock, simple but very elegant to my eye. And shoots better than I can.
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And while we're at it, this is my smoothie: It's a French-influenced English trade gun / fowling piece with a 48" tapered 14 bore (.69 caliber) barrel in a full walnut stock. It depends on my mood, of course, but she may barely edge out the rifle for my favorite long gun. Especially as I age.

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I have shot lots of deer and elk with my flinters. A .50 roundball is fine for all deer and plinking but I’m more comfortable with a .54 or .58 for elk. And near bear i‘d definitely choose the larger calibers.

Most popular calibers? I sell the muzzle coning tools ( MUZZLE CONING TOOL ) and by far the most popular caliber is the .50 and the .54 and .45 are neck and neck for a distant second place.
 
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I certainly hope this adds to rather than derails the conversation, but I'm curious: Why do y'all think the .45, clearly with less "whomp" factor, remains so popular? (I know my personal take on it, but am curious as to others opinions).
 
Probably because it’s such a gentle caliber to shoot and it uses much less powder. And it’s capable to kill deer quite well if hit properly. I just prefer a .50 or larger for deer.
 
You all just keep on "Giving", and I can not say how appreciative that I am, to be doing all this "Getting"!!!!
I'll bet the .45 has its popularity in part, due to maybe, more guys shoot a conical in .45s to add weight and,
so improve penetration, and of course conical that means skipping the patch, I think. That's my "poke in the
dark". Those buttstocks on the three pictures above are VERY attractive in my opinion. The "lines" are so nice
and the wood covered patch boxes definitely get my vote. I prefer the iron look over the "shiny" as well! I'd
prefer a half stock though, and total length at about 50 inches, give or take.
 
"poor boy" is our term for a fairly simple rifle. Simple iron fittings (maybe a little brass), no butt-plate, nothing on the nose... This is mine: 44" swamped & tapered barrel, full maple stock, simple but very elegant to my eye. And shoots better than I can. View attachment 136584

And while we're at it, this is my smoothie: It's a French-influenced English trade gun / fowling piece with a 48" tapered 14 bore (.69 caliber) barrel in a full walnut stock. It depends on my mood, of course, but she may barely edge out the rifle for my favorite long gun. Especially as I age.

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Very nice rifles.
 
Don't know what is most often seen at the big shoots but if I was planning to hunt bear I would build a .58 . To me there is small difference in .50 and .54 , both being excellent deer calibers but the .58 ball is much bigger than .50 and gives more weight . If I only have one shot I want it to be a big one.
 
Southern mountain rifle type in .45 for all the reasons mentioned previously, plus its an iron mounted bare knuckle beauty.
Robby
 
I ain’t yet heard an encouragin’ word for the use of a 58 caliber ball
Blown from a flint smoothbore barrel
It’ll bust through a 12 inch wall
I take that back cause Southgate spoke up before i could post my epistle
I’ll have to ride off with Santa’s sleigh as soft as the down of a thistle.
 
I certainly hope this adds to rather than derails the conversation, but I'm curious: Why do y'all think the .45, clearly with less "whomp" factor, remains so popular? (I know my personal take on it, but am curious as to others opinions).
I prefer the .45 for target work as it carries up better in the wind than any of the smaller calibers yet still shoots about as flat with roughly the same recoil. For hunting large game it's really hard to beat a .54 or .58 cal. I prefer rifles as I shoot to 100 yards regularly and smooth bores get pretty iffy past 75 yards.
 
In the early years of the modern ml era (e.g. 1930s to date) smaller calibers, like .36 were popular. For range use the .40 had a big following. The .45 was long my favorite but, I have to admit, the .50 is probably more versatile. You mentioned black bear, so I would go with the .50. If you don't go over whitetail in game size the .45 is plenty adequate. Bottom line: Pick yer own poisen.
 
I have my first flintlock rifle coming tomorrow. Its a Pedersoli Kentucky in 45 caliber. That gun has a 1/48 twist. I already have a Cabelas Hawken in 45 caliber with 1/48 twist. It not only shoots round balls very well but does a good job with Lee REAl bullets as well. So I am hoping my new gun will also handle those bullets as well as balls.

I also have 50s and 54s that shoot bullets as well as balls. Adding a 320gr bullet to a 50 caliber gun really ups the killing power. I killed my first Elk with a 54 shooting a Lee Improved Minnie that weighed 405grs. It blew through that big animal like it wasn't even there and did a lot of damage too.
 
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