Dutch Schultz

bpflint2007 said:

New guy here, what’s his dry patch method?

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Have a look at his web site , Click on Black powder rifle accuracy system - The phone number and address will probably have changed since he moved in with his daughter

Dutch is a great guy. I use his system and have had many phone conversations with him over the years.

Yeah he's one of those folks that has made a continuing contribution to muzzle loading.

LD

I am glad that someone updated on Dutch’s status. Just this weekend one of our shooters hit a 50 using a dry patch method and I commented that he was well taught by Dutch. God bless him.

bpflint2007 said:

New guy here, what’s his dry patch method?

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Dutch still has his E Book listing on eBay, which is where I bought mine a couple of years ago. Its listed as "Black Powder Rifle Accuracy System by Dutch Schoultz Ebook". Looks like he also has it in print as well, he was out of the printed version when I initially bought mine.

bpflint2007 said:

New guy here, what’s his dry patch method?

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As the name implies it starts with using a soluable oil and water to leave a "dry" oiled patch. But it goes way beyond in giving details in how to be consistent from shot to shot. His system will save you many hours of expermentation. Dutch has always helped anyone with out hesation. Many people who shoot well are "keepers of the secret" but Dutch shared his knowledge with anyone.He was always willing to help.

I was wondering about him too. Moved some things arould my ML stuff and there was my folder with his accuracy system.

Cutfinger said:

For those of you who know or know of Dutch and use his dry patch method you will be pleased to know he is alive and well and still above ground , he is 94 in March . Sadly he is losing his sight , other than that, he is still his former self and just as chatty as ever . He now lives with his daughter Lynn

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Thanks for the update

There's 94+ pages available to get good information with respect to accuracy on target and maintenance of your rifle. It's worth the price he is asking.

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I’m glad to hear my friend Dutch is still with us. For anyone starting to get serious about their ML shooting that hasn’t already done so, by all means do yourself a huge favor and get Dutch’s E-book. There’s a lot more in there than “ shoot a dry patch”.
This target was shot while working up a load for the Alvin York “ chunk” shoot. If you’re not familiar with chunk( aka; Over the Log) shooting, it’s all about the group size, and the last thing you want is to have your group hit your aiming point. This ragged hole is the result of 10 -50 cal balls loaded TIGHT with a Dutch Schoultz style patch. Got kinda boring after a while so I stopped at 10

For some chunk gun shooters, the aiming target was almost as important as the rifle and part of the shooting kit.

Grenadier1758 said:

For some chunk gun shooters, the aiming target was almost as important as the rifle and part of the shooting kit.

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Exactly. Everyone’s aim point is personally tailored to what works best for their rifle sights and their vision. The target I posted ( above) was one of several designs I tested and it worked better than any of the others, For Me.

I agree, for the novice muzzleloader there is a lot of good information, although it is compiled in mishmash format. The basic concept is no different if you reload non-mentionables, consistency in your components and methodology, when you are tweaking a load alter one component at a time. His moose milk is no secret recipe.

I disagree that his moose milk is no secret recipe. I don't believe I've seen any recipes for moose milk. His recipe is several different ratios of ballistol to water on consistent thicknesses of ticking material. See what ratio works best with your rifle. Works great for me and other folks who try his method.

I agree that there is much more knowledgeable information within this book than than meets the eye...
It is a wealth of learned experience he shares with all of us. And, each in our own way, we have benefited from his experience. Thanks Dutch !

Don Steele said:

I’m glad to hear my friend Dutch is still with us. For anyone starting to get serious about their ML shooting that hasn’t already done so, by all means do yourself a huge favor and get Dutch’s E-book. There’s a lot more in there than “ shoot a dry patch”.
This target was shot while working up a load for the Alvin York “ chunk” shoot. If you’re not familiar with chunk( aka; Over the Log) shooting, it’s all about the group size, and the last thing you want is to have your group hit your aiming point. This ragged hole is the result of 10 -50 cal balls loaded TIGHT with a Dutch Schoultz style patch. Got kinda boring after a while so I stopped at 10View attachment 115853

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Mr. Steele, quite impressive. Curious as to the caliber of the barrel since you are using a .500 ball and a .018 patch. "Tight" would indicate some effort to seat that ball. More insight would be appreciated to those who are curious. Thanks

Do a simple google search of "moose milk ballistol" and you will see dozens of posts and differing recipes of it. I don't know if Dutch came up with it, but moose milk is no secret.

this isnt anything new guys. Im pretty sure its in the Muzzleloading Cap Lock book

The only Dutch I knew was at F' Ship shoots he sold parts & castings, he seemed grumpy maybe just didn't like me or had a bad day. It was often a hot dusty grind couped in a booth all week So not too suppriseing . I must read his methods my groups never get that constant .
Rudyard

Happy to oblige. I measured the patch material to be .018” ( compressed). It’s been my observation that two people with different instruments and technique will rarely get the same result on a given piece of material. It’s a very tightly woven 100% cotton I refer to as “ lite canvas” for my own reference that I purchase several yards of at a time, hot wash twice, dry and lightly iron before measuring for my records. The ball is cast from a .500 mold. After running a batch of balls, they are inspected and weight graded. My acceptance range is +\- 0.5 grains from nominal. I use a small “ starter tool” ( picture below) and mallet to get the ball into the rifling and just below the muzzle, then cut the patch material at the muzzle in the usual fashion with a razor sharp blade. A common “ short starter” is then used, also with a mallet, to push the ball approximately 5-6 in. Into the barrel. The ramrod I use to seat the ball is a solid brass rod, 3/8” in diameter. The bore is wiped between shots with a “ just damp” patch, using both sides then followed with a dry patch. Hope this helps.