Octagon to Round

Cattywompuss · Nov 26, 2021

Anyone have an octagon to round Rifled gun? I'm not looking to buy one, just wondering if anyone has an actual longrifle with a octagon to round barrel. I have a .60 smoothrifle with a 1/3 octagon to round, but anyone got a grooved rifle with one? I know Sharps and Remington and so forth did it later with BPCRs, but specifically wondering if anyone has a trad longrifle with such a barrel?

FishDFly · Nov 26, 2021

Yes,45

tenngun · Nov 27, 2021

I don’t but I know track offers the barrels

French Colonial · Nov 27, 2021

Cattywompuss said:
Anyone have an octagon to round Rifled gun? I'm not looking to buy one, just wondering if anyone has an actual longrifle with a octagon to round barrel. I have a .60 smoothrifle with a 1/3 octagon to round, but anyone got a grooved rifle with one? I know Sharps and Remington and so forth did it later with BPCRs, but specifically wondering if anyone has a trad longrifle with such a barrel?

Do you mean an original? I have a Chambers Virginia rifle that is patterned off what Jim believes was a John Newcomer rifle. Should be quite a few fellows with modern reproductions I would guess.

rebs · Nov 27, 2021

I have a New Englander that has an octagon to round barrel

rich pierce · Nov 27, 2021

I built an early rifle with a wooden box and an octagon to round barrel. The main issue is that the front sight needs to be tall or it will shoot high. This is because of the taper of the barrel from rear sight to front sight. Mine is .54.

smo · Nov 27, 2021

If I’m not mistaken Wattlebuster owns a rifled .62 gun that I’m pretty sure is octagon to round..

Brokennock · Nov 27, 2021

smo said:
If I’m not mistaken Wattlebuster owns a rifled .62 gun that I’m pretty sure is octagon to round..

That's interesting to me. Hopefully @wattlebuster will chime in. I'm wondering if a rifled octagon to round barrel can be had to be a drop in swap out between my current smoothbore .62 barrel and a rifled one in my Early Virginia smoothrifle

nkbj · Nov 27, 2021

Mine is a fifty smooth bore.

Stykbow · Nov 27, 2021

I think the T/C White Mountain Carbine has an octagon to round barrel.

OldRust · Nov 27, 2021

I have seen originals in museums. One in the PA State Museum in Harrisburg I think.
Not original or a long rifle but the early TC Pennsylvania Hunters are octagon to round.

Thanks
O.R.

deerstalkert · Nov 27, 2021

i have a Pedersoli Mortimer with oct to 12 to wedding rings to round if that counts!

smo · Nov 27, 2021

My bad…

Looks like Wattles gun was a swamped profile .62.
His Turkey gun is oct to round but smoothbore.. Caywoods I think??

rich pierce · Nov 27, 2021

My octagon to round rifle based on #19 in Rifles of Colonial America.

dave_person · Nov 27, 2021

Hi,
This English rifle has a 39" octagon/round barrel. It handles superbly and shoots extremely well.

dave

Brokennock · Nov 27, 2021

rich pierce said:
My octagon to round rifle based on #19 in Rifles of Colonial America.
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That'll do instead.
I'll bite the bullet and trade you for my Early Virginia smoothrifle, lol.

French Colonial · Nov 28, 2021

Maybe Cattywompass will respond and let us know exactly why he was inquiring and whether he wanted examples of originals or reproductions.

Cattywompuss · Nov 28, 2021

French Colonial said:
Maybe Cattywompass will respond and let us know exactly why he was inquiring and whether he wanted examples of originals or reproductions.

Curiosity. I only wanted to know if it was done 250 years ago. Not particularly interested in modern designs like TC. But round adds many disadvantages to a longrifle that isn't smoothbore. So I wanted to know if it was done.

French Colonial · Nov 28, 2021

I thought maybe that was the basis.

But now that you have said there are disadvantages this should devolve in to 7 pages arguing over the merits or lack thereof :ghostly:

Brokennock · Nov 28, 2021

French Colonial said:
I thought maybe that was the basis.

But now that you have said there are disadvantages this should devolve in to 7 pages arguing over the merits or lack thereof

9 pages if someone doesn't proofread and someone else doesn't recognize the mistake as a typo or the responder misspeaking themselves.

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