Problem with Pyrodex pistol pellets

Okie Hog said:

+1

Pyrodex pellets have a black powder ignitor on one end, That end goes toward the nipple.

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what end goes toward the nipple? they have a hole in the center, that comes with a pipe cleaner to get them out of the box without breaking them?

10acres said:

I shoot 777 pellets out of my unmentionable front stuffer, but have never even thought about using them in my other muzzleloaders.

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I did not know that 777 made pellets? could you please post a photo of them?

Birddog1911 said:

There is nothing in the instructions to indicate this. Nor is there a visual indicator.



Call it what you like. But a solid half second between cap ignition and the pellet igniting is a problem.

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you can load them either side up! or there would be a message on the box THIS SIDE TOWARD THE NIPPLE!!

Elkhorse said:

Just called the factory, pellets came out in 1996.

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well that takes care of that scenario!!

Had to help a friend clear two rifles loaded with Pyrodex pellets. Could not get ignition. Uncomfortable working on rifles I knew were loaded. Took precautions and eventually did it and lectured friend to use real bp only.

About 12 or 13 years ago, I tried the pellets in my then-new .50. At the range, time and again the shots were "laddered" - on a nice vertical line extending through the bull, but up to 8" above or below the center.
When I got home, I weighed the remaining pellets, which were billed as being 50 grains. The weights varied from a low of 44 to a high of 58, with no two being the same weight.. Thus, the "laddering" effect on my targets.
I believe I burned them all of a concrete pad, and have never bought any since. BP always now, with weights varying from .49 to .51, weighing from my dipper.

Birddog1911 said:

Took my 3rd model Dragoon out yesterday for the first time. Loaded it up with new Pyrodex pellets. Every shot had a flintlock like delay, and did not burn completely. In fact, it was shooting out burning cinders. Even set my target on fire!

Tried 12, and don't feel that any of them in the box are safe. Switched to regular 777, and all good. I emailed Hodgdon, guess I'll see what they say.

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Shot about 75 rounds out of Pyrodex pellets out of my ROA Sunday, it shot fine with no problems. I like the ease of loading, I can get off more shots off during range time. I do though like the feel and sound of black powder better

Rifleman1776 said:

Had to help a friend clear two rifles loaded with Pyrodex pellets. Could not get ignition. Uncomfortable working on rifles I knew were loaded. Took precautions and eventually did it and lectured friend to use real bp only.

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Was it a side lock? Pellets are not designed to be used in traditional muzzleloaders. They ignite from the inside out that is why there’s a hole down the middle. The heat from the cap or primer travels through the center causing it to burn from the inside out.

I agree with .36Rooster. Call Buffalo Arms and get real BP.

.36Rooster said:

Switch to regular goex, and email buffalo arms and have them mail you 5 pounds of it,...and then just go have fun shooting the actual powder that these guns were meant to shoot...

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Sound advice. I had nothing but problems when I tried pellets in my cap and ball revolvers. Stick with traditional black powder and you'll wonder why you ever tried pellets in the first place.

toot said:

I did not know that 777 made pellets? could you please post a photo of them?

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I didn't know that either, but 'tis true: Click Here.

777 in pellet form? If you try using that there are two things working against you.

T7 pellets been around for a long time. 30,50 & 60 grain. They even make them in .45 caliber.

Talked to a rep at Hodgdon, and they're going to replace the pellets.

I think I'll shoot a video of alternating new and old pellets in the cylinder to see the difference

Birddog1911 said:

Took my 3rd model Dragoon out yesterday for the first time. Loaded it up with new Pyrodex pellets. Every shot had a flintlock like delay, and did not burn completely. In fact, it was shooting out burning cinders. Even set my target on fire!

Tried 12, and don't feel that any of them in the box are safe. Switched to regular 777, and all good. I emailed Hodgdon, guess I'll see what they say.

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Pyrodex sucks. End of story.

Musketeer said:

I didn't know that either, but 'tis true: Click Here.

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well there products must be good by all of the OUT OF STOCK LISTINGS?!

Springerpanhead said:

Pyrodex sucks. End of story.

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ROGER THAT MATE! when are people going to learn? clean it after a shooting session and a week later you have a BAT CAVE! jmho.

I would like to see the pellets in a 30 GRAIN form, like PYRODEX makes, these seem to be only on 50 CAL?.

Old-fashioned guy. For muzzle-loaders I like genuine black gunpowder, about 75% potassium nitrate, with sulfur nd charcoal, all ground together. Would not put anything else down the bbl. Some years ago I had to buy 25#, a lifetime supply, to get real gunpowder..