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Colterkid

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Recently I purchased a new looking Traditions .50 caliber Shenandoah Rifle. The wooden ramrod was warped, so I need to order a new one.
It looks to be 3/8" in diameter, but could be a 9mm.
Anybody know what the correct size is since I don't have a caliper?
Much appreciated.
 
Hey Colterkid. I have a Shenandoah. I replaced the RR a while back. It is 3/8".

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Here's the part number for Track of the wolf.

RAMROD-6-10-B-36

Ramrod, 3/8" hickory, 36" long, brass tip, 10-32 thread, made in the USA

PM me if you have any questions about the rifle.
 
Hey Colterkid. I have a Shenandoah. I replaced the RR a while back. It is 3/8".

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Here's the part number for Track of the wolf.

RAMROD-6-10-B-36

Ramrod, 3/8" hickory, 36" long, brass tip, 10-32 thread, made in the USA

PM me if you have any questions about the rifle.
Hey Colterkid. I have a Shenandoah. I replaced the RR a while back. It is 3/8".

View attachment 86138

Here's the part number for Track of the wolf.

RAMROD-6-10-B-36

Ramrod, 3/8" hickory, 36" long, brass tip, 10-32 thread, made in the USA

PM me if you have any questions about
 
One thing I heard from older shooters any many years ago. These are folks who shot originals and hunted with them.
was to soak your ramrod in coal oil ( kerosine) and it would not break.
for what it is worth. I did that years ago and it seemed to help the rod quite a bit.
im about to do it again.
just thought I would share that.
 
Digital calipers can be found for relatively low cost that have acceptable accuracy for our purposes. It is false economy to fail to spend $20 for a digital caliper when there are so many uses for that device.

Harbor Freight is probably the most available.
Search Results For "Digital Caliper" (harborfreight.com)

Midway USA also has a good selection of calipers.
Calipers - MidwayUSA
 
One thing I heard from older shooters any many years ago. These are folks who shot originals and hunted with them.
was to soak your ramrod in coal oil ( kerosine) and it would not break.
for what it is worth. I did that years ago and it seemed to help the rod quite a bit.
im about to do it again.
just thought I would share that.
Great, I'll try that. Good advice.
I ordered a new one from TOW, but I'll do what you recommend so I'll have a backup.
Appreciate it.
 
Digital calipers can be found for relatively low cost that have acceptable accuracy for our purposes. It is false economy to fail to spend $20 for a digital caliper when there are so many uses for that device.

Harbor Freight is probably the most available.
Search Results For "Digital Caliper" (harborfreight.com)

Midway USA also has a good selection of calipers.
Calipers - MidwayUSA
I'll definitely invest in one. I'm just getting started in muzzleloading, and since I will be purchasing different calibers, I will get one.
Thanks for the advice.
 
You want a bit of “less than straight” on a ramrod, helps keep it in the thimbles better.
Don’t soak in kerosene.
Soak it in a 50/50 mix of linseed and turpentine.
Boning it will also help with durability.
I have a heavy bench/cleaning rod I made over 35 years ago that was soaked and boned. To this day I can still bend it into about a half circle without overly stressing it.
 
Got me thinking and I just ordered a replacement hickory ramrod for my Frontier rifle from Track of the Wolf. The factory one seems a little delicate...I have been using a fiberglass range rod mostly at the range, but want to simplify my range trips sometimes....bag/horn/rifle. Feels like I pack a lot of gear to the range some days...
 
You want a bit of “less than straight” on a ramrod, helps keep it in the thimbles better.
Don’t soak in kerosene.
Soak it in a 50/50 mix of linseed and turpentine.
Boning it will also help with durability.
I have a heavy bench/cleaning rod I made over 35 years ago that was soaked and boned. To this day I can still bend it into about a half circle without overly stressing it.
Bone it the same as burnish it with a bone or piece of horn? I burnish mine with a piece of deer antler.
 
Recently I purchased a new looking Traditions .50 caliber Shenandoah Rifle. The wooden ramrod was warped, so I need to order a new one.
It looks to be 3/8" in diameter, but could be a 9mm.
Anybody know what the correct size is since I don't have a caliper?
Much appreciated.
It looks as if the brethren have answered the question, but since this is a forum, we can discuss it a little more...

I would agree with those who recommended getting a good micrometer caliper. It is most definitely a good investment. As you get more deeply involved in muzzleloading, you'll find yourself measuring the diameter of lead balls, the thickness of patches, and Lord knows what else. After you have gotten a good caliper, you'll wonder how you ever got along without it.

Good hickory ramrods need not be perfectly straight. You don't want a "dogleg" in it, but a long, gentle curve will help it stay in the ramrod pipes beneath your rifle's barrel. It will straighten out in your rifle bore as you ram the load. The ability of the rod to bend a bit without breaking is good, but it really shouldn't need to flex much. Get the ball started in your bore, insert the ramrod, and grab it just a few inches from the muzzle. Ram, move your hand up a few inches, ram again, and repeat until you have the ball seated. It is not good practice to grab the rod at its upper end and try to push the ball with one continuous swoop. That's one way ramrods get broken and hands get injured.

I would submit that many people nowadays make their ramrods backwards. The driving end of the modern muzzleloading rod has a threaded ferrule on it, and the rod is a uniform diameter. Original rods were usually tapered, with an enlarged "head" for driving the ball, and with the body of the rod in a slightly smaller diameter to fit in the ferrules. If there was a threaded fitting for accessories, such as a worm or ball puller, it would have been on the small end of the rod, down in the rifle stock, typically not on the driving end.

The main thing right now is for you to get your hands on a functional ramrod and get out there and start shooting. However, I would suggest that when you order your new ramrod, maybe go ahead and order a couple of plain hickory rods along with it and try making a replacement yourself. Try a slightly oversized rod, maybe 7/16ths if it will fit your rifle bore, and scrape or plane the body of the rod down so it's an easy slip fit in your ramrod ferrules. Not so loose that it will drop out, but not so tight that it will swell up in wet weather and get stuck. These are not hard to make. They just take a little time. I don't soak mine in kerosene, coal oil, or whatever, although I have heard of it. I do think a waterproof finish is a good idea, though.

You may want to mount a threaded ferrule on the small end of the rod. This has been discussed many times on this forum and we need not go into detail here, but you will definitely want to secure that threaded fitting with a strong adhesive (epoxy or hot-melt ferrule cement) and a cross-pin. If you want further advice on how to proceed, you can probably find it with a search, or just come back and ask your question. You'll get plenty of help!

Good luck to you!

Notchy Bob
 
Recently I purchased a new looking Traditions .50 caliber Shenandoah Rifle. The wooden ramrod was warped, so I need to order a new one.
It looks to be 3/8" in diameter, but could be a 9mm.
Anybody know what the correct size is since I don't have a caliper?
Much appreciated.
How warped is it? If you can press it thru the thimbles it will certainly stay in place…
 
Nothing wrong with replacing the rod that came with the gun. I love a good hickory ramrod in my guns. I like to flame brown them but you can actually warp a straight rod with too much heat. I mean, warp it like a sidewinder, very crooked and almost unusable so you have to go easy with the flame. I do range rods like that as well with 48" hickory rods. I agree that a good rod would have a threaded thimble on the end that goes down into the gun and a larger end to drive the ball. I like the brass cleaning jags with flat faces, not concave faces to drive the ball. I cut the rod so the length is flush with the muzzle when the jag is permanently affixed to the rod. This also provides a "knob" for your fingers to grab on to to help withdraw the rod once you get your fingers greasy with patch lube etc.
 
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