March 13th poll results

Here are the results of the March 13th question from Teleoceras\NY

133. What lock types do you own? (Check all that apply)

Handgonne (4) 2%
Matchlock (8) 4%
Wheellock (3) 2%
Snaphaunce (2) 1%
Baltic Snaplock (0) 0%
Miquelet Lock (1) 1%
English (Jacobean) Lock (4) 2%
Doglock (5) 2%
Flintlock (84) 39%
Percussion Lock (83) 38%
Percussion Inline (22) 10%


YOUR COMMENTS:

Since I have always been more interested in the practical aspects of muzzleloading (hunting, competitive shooting) as opposed to the aesthetic aspects (re-enacting, trekking), my guns are confined to the flint and percussion types, with flint far outnumbering the caps. Although I am a strict traditionalist and attend my share of rendezvous and primitive events each year, I have just never had the urge to own some of the more esoteric types of muzzleloaders.

I am working on a wheel lock but don't have it finished nor will I for a while. So I just have flints and percussion.

I actually lied earlier in a post saying I had only one perc gun when I really have two...I keep forgetting my 44 CVA revolver I built from a kit and never fired. Sorry.

One percussion inline from the late 80's;
Several percussion sidelocks, which I'm gradually selling off;
Several flintlocks that I shoot 99% of the time;

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Those who have visited my site know just how many lock types I own! I

I missed that poll! 5 caplock rifles, 4 cap & ball revolvers, 2 cannons, 1 mortar and 2 Handgonnes!

Sorry!

Hey all. I had an inquiry on just what I meant in my question about "social" reenacting. I would differentiate social versus progressive as a more laid back approach to the activity. Less "hardcore" documentation and more just the flavor or appearance of the time/era presented.
In some geographical areas, there are fewer progressive gatherings for specific "times" than others. For instance, here on the left coast, there are colonial reenactors that do Longhunter, F&I and AWI, but not too many progressive events. Those of us that cannot get to the progressive events do our own thing striving for a good flavor but not hand-stitched, etc. Personally, I try for the 10-foot rule.
No bashing of progressive meant whatsoever. To each their own as they see fit.
Hope this clears up the question some. If not, email me.
"Headed out to Suagothel."

I would differentiate social versus progressive as a more laid back approach to the activity. Less "hardcore" documentation and more just the flavor or appearance of the time/era presented.

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Oh no. I can see it now.

Reenacting defined:

Social - (I don't care about being authentic, I just want to wear buckskins and party)

Semi-social - (I don't care about being too authentic, I just want to wear buckskins, but the hangover should be authentic)

Progressive - (I want to be somewhat authentic, I think?)

Semi-progressive - (I want to be somewhat authentic, but don't care if you aren't)

Social-Progressive - (I do care about being authentic, but I still want to party)

Semi-Social Progressive - (What was the question?)

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Hey Wolf. Geez....hope it don't get to that point....to hard to remember where yer at!!!!
For me, I believe the only difference between my get up is that it is all machine stitched (less the leather I have stitched) and not done by hand. I try to get the best stuff I can and have done a bunch of research, listened to others, and questioned about what I have. I do 2-colonial things....1757 Ranger and 1763 PA Militiaman. I don't wear buckskins with fringe, don't carry a T/C half stock and don't wear plains indian beadwork. I have tried to get the equipment right, the musket right, the leather right, the clothes right....just not hand-stitched so I would be toast at a progressive event.
The reason I have just a hint of thin skin on this subject is the one and only real dig about what I am trying to do came from a hard-core nazi (over the net)...told me that if I couldn't get it perfect, why do it? Told him that I was in it for fun....he said get out then...this isn't fun, it is a contest.... Told him he was wrong and he went on to tell me about his hand-stitched and deeply researched stuff...(including a $1900 custom musket that he would only shoot blanks from) then gave me an idea about the $$$ he had invested and it was considerable. I guess for me spending next month's utility bill cash for a "correct" shirt is not my cup of tea... I only dress up a couple of times a year due to some severe physical limitations so I do what I can and try to get it just damned close to where it should be. Others' mileage may vary for sure.

The attitude of the individual you mentioned is one of the primary reasons I care nothing about getting all involved that sort of thing...there are always people like that who think they're god's gift to the sport, etc...to me it's disgusting...and look, we're even wasting our time talking about it now and they're not even around !!!!!!!!!

I can relate to that. I mean how do you compete with some rich snob who can afford to blow 2 grand or more on a gun that they will never know if it shoots straight. I make most of my own possibles and buy or trade for other pieces I come across at Pow Wow, yard sales, flea markets or on E-bay. I bought my Hudson Bay beaver tail dagger at a junk shop for $20, no its not an original, but a decent repro. My three pairs moccasins I bartered my computer skills for. I'm out for fun and to see how straight I can shoot that day. I try to be accurate in my dress, but I'm no button or thread counter. The smell of the shot, good conversation and a warm fire at midnite is all I need to have a good time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I think it may be difficult for anyone to objectively rate where they fall in the different zones of PCness, as so many aspects are somewhay debateable, the main factor that we should look for is to provide as much solid fact based info when asked about something as we can so those who are trying to learn can make some educated choices as to where they wish to take the sport, there is so much BS out there being passed off as historical that is the result of a lack of research and most of it is taken as the truth because it is on a website or in an article, the RMFT 1823 Newhouse Beaver trap pictured in another post is a good example( no flame intened to Liver eatin' Johnson) but the historical data does not support the existance of an 1823 Newhouse in the Rockies...that particular trap has a chain of a type that did not come into use untill after the civil war if I recall, and the length of chain and stake setup are for a land set for wolf or yodel dogs, once again no flame just an example of missinformation that does cloud the waters for those in search of the Holy PC Grail....

"this isn't fun, it's a contest" ::
Even if it is a contest, if it's not fun, why do it?
The whole point is to enjoy what you're doing, not to see who can spend the most money.