Anyone see the new T/C flintlock?

Me neither.

But wouldn't it be nice to open a magazine and see this:



Sure, the wood couldn't necessarily be this nice at that price, but even if it had straight grain I'd be saving my pennies.

Is it too much to ask?

Looks like a Pedersoli Frontier rifle. Just buy one of them. :grin: But you are right, it would be nice if T/C would produce something like that instead of all those I word guns.

send it to t/c and tell them "hint,hint"

i'd need 'em to make a lefty version. and make sure that it was made by them, and not just their name on an import. :grin:

dadgum, when i first saw your post i thought you were serious! :shocked2: made my pulse quicken for a sec :haha:

Now Stumpy, you need to be taken out behind the woodshed !!
:rotf:

Hey, I put a lot of work into that image ~ took my whole lunch hour! How does Musketman do these things?

Seriously, do you think if enough of us barraged T/C with inquires on full-stocked flintlocks "of early style" we could get the elephant to dance? Can you imagine a .32 squirrel rifle with a 13/16" barrel and a good, solid lock, all made by T/C? Imagine the potential of customizing stock rifles and starting with a finished or kit rifle and bolting on an aftermarket patchbox as a first gunsmithing project.

* sigh * The saddest words in the English language: "it might have been"

Stumpkiller,
You are a very cruel man. Where did you come up with that. I would love to have a TC rifle built like that. Wow! I thought it was for real.

Well, Stumpy's got a point about sending in a barrage of requests to TC. We'd have nothing to lose but some time just by testing the waters. It would be nice.... :hmm:

I have always wondered if just such a thing would be possible. With the right manufacuring equipment and reasonable economy of scale, could an undecorated properly finished long gun with authentic architecture and a good lock be made available for about $625? Someone like TC could bring in one of the highly regarded contemporary builders as a consultant. The product line might start out with:

a flint Lancaster
a perc Hawken
a 1st model Brown Bess
a Fusil de Chasse

i think it's absolutely possible, especially in light of the fact that TVM manufactures semi-custom guns for $750. t/c's mass production facilities could do it that cheap for sure. the question is . . . demand. hopefully traditional muzzleloading will keep picking up, kind of like traditional archery has. traditional archery is getting to be pretty big bizness.

I'd be happy if they made a Hawken that looked a little bit like a Hawken and a Poorboy fullstock Tennessee style. We'll be lucky if they don't drop the sidelock they are still making.

You weasel.
I was getting excited for a moment. Rotten prankster.

I wish but if that's the kind of gun you want I think you need to go custom or TVM.

It's a Catch-22. T/C produces a sidelock but the sales are light. They say: "people don't want sidelocks." The public, on the other hand, may be saying: "we want a longrifle or a half-stock that IS something and doesn't try to be too much at once and so ends up being not much at all". Many of us are here for the history and not just because it loads from the front and goes bang.

There must be a market of muzzleoladers who would kill for accurate representations of historically significant muzzleloaders. A 1st Model Bess, a Charleville, a 1795 Contract Rifle (they missed the "200th L&C anniversary special addition" boat on that one), a plain Revolutionary era rifle, a Leman or a Derringer trade rifle, a Northwest Trade Gun (tell me you wouldn't like one of those in 24 bore made to T/C quality ~ they should be able to make a dandy for $500 or less), a Tennessee squirrel rifle to take the place of the sadly defunct Dixie version - but with a strong lock.

If they only did two: a smoothbore trade gun copied from a Wilson and a plain Southern Mt. rifle from a Bean with a straight but thin walled barrel. Not all shiney but a matte finish, even blued would be OK because those that wanted could take it down with Naval Jelly. Don't need the hooked breech, just pins and a screw. Don't need high & adjustable sights, just simple dovetails. Sell a small file as an accessory in a shrink wrap.

Ruger got brave and sold a revolver without adjustable sights and SASS sprung up overnight. Well, that may not be exactly what the root cause was, but look at what's happening there!

Maybe someday.

Well, their entire side lock line has been withering on the vine for 10 years since the inline explosion...they are down to only the flagship model Hawken left in the catelog that even resembles anything traditional, and I don't think Hawken sales are stellar...and if that's the reaction form the general shooting public to the Hawken, those who might like what you drew in your sketch would only be just a tiny fraction of a % of those.

As much as I'd like to see something like that, indeed, even a slightly more primitive version of the existing Hawken...(like decent fixed sights, more drop in the stock, etc)...I doubt TC would see enough market for a completely new full stock model to justify the R&D costs, retooling & manufacturing fit up costs, advertising costs, etc, etc.

I'd probably get one or twelve if they did...
:grin:

you forgot to add 58 cal.

Nice job Stumpy!

Let's all copy & paste that "add" into an email to T/C asking for more info & see what kind of response we get. Maybe, if enough people do that they will think more seriously about producing traditional guns. :hmm:

I'll take a left hand .36

TC don't accept emails, how do I know, I just tried. :rotf:

Just my luck-- if I got it to them they'd probably sue for unauthorized use of their logo...

Legion

What put sidelock/'traditional' arms in decline at T/C was the fire. That destroyed a lot of really fine walnut and the tooling for the Cherokee and Seneca. If that walnut was still on hand, does anyone doubt that sidelocks would still be a big part of the T/C product line?

I'd settle for the return of the Cherokee and the Seneca. Wouldn't bother me none if the wood was plain.
Bob