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I have been asked to go on a muzzleloader only hunt here in California. I have a .54 TC Renegade. We cannot use lead bullets in California. Can I use a sabot with a copper bullet safely in the Renegade? Are there special loading procedures? I have sent an email to Sam Fadala asking the same question..
 
My dad used to use them in his TC .54 Renegade, so I would say "yes". He even killed a deer with one.
 
Go to modern muzzleloader if you want to talk sabots. You’ll get yer knuckles rapped for talkin’ about them here.
 
BarnyDaddy said:
I have been asked to go on a muzzleloader only hunt here in California. I have a .54 TC Renegade. We cannot use lead bullets in California. Can I use a sabot with a copper bullet safely in the Renegade? Are there special loading procedures? I have sent an email to Sam Fadala asking the same question..
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I hate to say it but, bubba.50 is right.
Talking about modern sabots on the forum is against the forum rules. This is a traditional muzzleloading forum and plastic sabots weren't heard of before 1866.

That said, follow this link to our sister forum, the Modern Muzzleloader forum. They talk a lot about sabots there.

https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/
 
There is a company named Thor that offers full bore diameter copper projectiles for muzzle loaders.You might give those a look. They advertise as CA legal but best to check your local fish and game laws.
 
An old forum member did lots of experimenting with brass roundballs, to great success if I recall correctly. Do a search for his old posts for more info. Went under the handle Roundball.
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Hey come on!!!! Guy comes here for help and you push him off a cliff for asking a honest question because of stupid CA laws. He is using the right gun for this forum and wants to hunt. I am sure you so called primitive hunters use that manure pyrodex and not real black and it goes unchallenged.
 
Go to a local tire store and get some of those California-friendly zinc wheelweights., and cast up a batch of balls. The patch surrounding your PRB doesn't care of it's covering lead, zinc, copper, brass or a marble. Done right, your patch engages the rifling, not the ball.
 
josie wales said:
Hey come on!!!! Guy comes here for help and you push him off a cliff for asking a honest question because of stupid CA laws. He is using the right gun for this forum and wants to hunt.
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"Hey come on!!!! " right back at ya.
Why should we (the forum) cave in to California's laws ? We don't bend to other countries either.

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I am sure you so called primitive hunters use that manure pyrodex and not real black and it goes unchallenged.
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Pyrodex by composition is period correct. It was first tried in the early part of the 1800's but was abandoned until the 1970's. There is little new under the sun.
 
Guys. Thanks. I just received a note from Sam Fadala and he directed me to his book #2
Thanks again.
Stay safe.....and hopefully....free
 
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Zonie directed you to the correct forum with the answers you need. I suggest you take up that advice. You nay even learn more than you are asking about for your Renegade.
 
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