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I see posts with guns for sale that say, "Shot 20 times or 50 times."

What does that mean?

Is that 20 times to the range for shooting?. How many shots for the 20 times to the range.

Or is that 20 shots total?
 
I see posts with guns for sale that say, "Shot 20 times or 50 times."

What does that mean?

Is that 20 times to the range for shooting?. How many shots for the 20 times to the range.

Or is that 20 shots total?

Perhaps the seller is not a mathematical genius. I accredit to the seller not knowing what they got and are just trying to make a sale.
 
I have always assumed that statement is an actual round count. To me it would either be misleading or meaningless to mention how many trips to the range a gun has had, since some guns are fired more during a trip than others. Any time I have mentioned number of times shot, that was in reference to the rounds down the bore.

My favorite is the "unfired" claim, especially with older, military surplus guns.
 
I have always took it at round count too but I take that with a grain of salt. Few people actually count and keep track of exact numbers. It really means little to me as a buyer. Shoot only 20 rnds and don't do a proper cleaning? I've gotten brass in a swap they said was cleaned and ready to go but when I got it, it looked like it had been barely cleaned long ago.
 
I do track my round counts sort of. Unmentionables, I have log books for each rifle and pistol and keep track so I can do spring barrel changes etc. Shotguns I don't track. BP I've been keeping track of each box of round balls I shoot so tracking in 100 shot increments.
 
I too keep records of the rounds thru a barrel, both centerfire and muzzleloaders. My reason for doing it is when accuracy of the barrel begins to fall off I can see how many rounds have been fired. Sometimes, to restore accuracy, a very intensive cleaning with my Outers electric bore cleaner is required. With a few of my muzzleloaders I have had to increase the size of the ball to re-establish accuracy. The round count gives me a baseline for accuracy.
 
And with some ML'er barrels, it takes XX rounds through them before they start shooting well. I've never had that experience with an unmentionable.
 
I'd say its actual round count. That then would make me question why a gun was for sale after so few rounds fired. Did the gun not meet expectations? Did it not fit the shooter properly? Did it break, or was something amiss with the firearm, and the owner decided best to just dump it?

As was said, actual round count is secondary at best. Id rather know the real reason the gun is for sale?
 
I see posts with guns for sale that say, "Shot 20 times or 50 times."

What does that mean?

Is that 20 times to the range for shooting?. How many shots for the 20 times to the range.

Or is that 20 shots total?

To me it's an eyebrow raiser, like when buying a car that was owned by a little old lady that only drove it to church on Sundays.
 
I’ve recently posted and sold a number of rifles that I built for family members hoping they would take an interest in the sport. I estimated how many times they were shot being generous in the number as I was with them at the range and hunting.
I’m perplexed by the insinuation that others are being mislead or duped by such information. Is it any worse than perfect or pristine bore - solid in-letting or other verbiage to describe the item at hand?
Please school me
Regards
Glenn
 
I have a very good friend for over 65 years and when I showed him my BP revolvers he went and purchased a 1860 Colt repo with the intent to shoot it. He never got around to shooting it and when a friend expressed a desire to buy it he sold it for what he paid for it so - it does happen that guns are sold that are NIB:ghostly::thumb:;).
 
I suspect somebody tried the hobby and shot a few rounds and decided it was not for them. Let’s see...I bought100 round balls and I still have 94 left! Shot only six times by the little old lady on a Sunday afternoon and used only half loads! That should make an easy sale!
 
I'm sure that's the case allot of the time but believe it or not there are dishonest people out there. If I see someone selling on the board and that's pretty much all he does, I'm a little more weary but if they been around a while and contributes then I'm more comfortable with a purchase. On another board I go to, there are a few there to scam people. By the time it is known, he of coarse is vanishes. Some even come back some time later under a different name. I'm not trying to point fingers, just saying it happens, in fact I have a pistol myself that is unfired and I have been contemplating selling. I just lost interest in it after I purchased it.
 
I take the claim with a grain of salt, but in fairness, if the rifle is clean and otherwise something I would want, I'm not at all concerned whether it's been fired once, 20 times or 50 times. As someone else pointed out, typically a gun that's been fired 50 or 100 times probably shoots a bit more consistently and accurately than one that's been fired 5 or 10 times anyway. And again, assuming that it was properly cleaned each time after being to the range, it's not as if a muzzleloader with a good barrel would be shot out after 100, 200 or 500 shots anyway, so who cares? I freely admit that I probably don't shoot as much as many folks on this board, but my rifles likely all have somewhere between 40-400 shots each through them and the bores are all very clean and nowhere near shot out, so again, what would the practical difference be?
 
If someone says they shot the gun 20 times I would expect it too have been shot 20 times.
Not that it really matters, it’s still a used gun.
If it’s advertised as like new, then I would think it should be in un fired condition....

The only thing that I find interesting is.... Why are you selling it?

I’ve purchased more than one flint gun that Guys have bought and then found out they prefer guns with nipples...
 
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