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I'm not a flintlock shooter but have decided that It would be fun to hunt with one this year. I'm just getting started building the gun and got wondering about the priming horn. Apparently the use of the little plunger type of dispenser is popular and track has them that dispense varying amounts of powder.

So, two questions. 1. What's a good choice as far as how much powder it will dispense into the pan? 2. Will they function with 3f or will it require 4f?
 
Believe they come in 1 grain and 3 grain. The 1 grain won't like 3f as much due to smaller opening, but it will work. The plunger also works well on priming the nipple if you get a no go with the main charge and a cap pop on a percussion firearm.
 
Most of the valves on the priming horns will only work with 4f. At least the timing horns and flasks with valves I have. Now you can successfully use 3fg in the pan and can be primed from the main horn. You should have a relatively fine tip to control flow of powder into the pan.
 
Track also sells a little 2oz bronze flask. Fits easily in a bag and a hand.
And handles any size powder.
I use one when I’m shooting make believe gunpowder as a kicker, five grains in the bore and prime the pan.
Priming from a spout ain’t really to hard.
 
The 3 and 4 gr dispensers I have( from TOTW) will dispense 4F accurately. Coarser powders, work poorly. I use the 4gr dispenser for all my different sized locks. . While it will dispense 4 gr of 4F quite well, I usually just tap the spout tip against the pan to meter to my desired level by eye. This is fast, and works well for me rarely,if ever, over filling the pan.
 
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Why bother with a priming horn when hunting? I only carry one powder horn, it contains FFFg. After measuring the powder charge and seating the roundball on top of the powder, I prime the pan with a small charge of FFFg, from the one horn. Less to carry, less to worry about. Lock time is very fast with the FFFg.
 
Why bother with a priming horn when hunting? I only carry one powder horn, it contains FFFg. After measuring the powder charge and seating the roundball on top of the powder, I prime the pan with a small charge of FFFg, from the one horn. Less to carry, less to worry about. Lock time is very fast with the FFFg.

The range i shoot at won,t let anyone prime from their main powder horn. But when hunting, i always use my horn and have not had an unexpected KA BOOM yet.
 
I use a small flask with 4fg for my Lancaster, GPR and smooth bore. I don't even know how many grains it throws. I just fill the pan to the depth I like and am done with it.

When my .32 caliber is done I'm going to be strictly using 3fg so will just prime from the horn I'm going to make specifically for that one gun. I use 2fg in all my other guns.
 
I use the small priming flask with the free-flow nozzle rather than the calibrated dispensers. It looks like this:


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Point the nozzle at a downward angle, press the button with your thumb, and the powder flows until you release the button. I have never measured the amount, but just try to fill the pan about a third to half full. Some pans are bigger than others and the priming charge needs to "fit" the pan. The valve of this flask has a positive cutoff and I feel I have very good control of the flow. I have not tried the calibrated dispenser type priming flasks, so honestly can't comment on how they function.

I use 4F (FFFFg) for priming. I have used 3F and 2F for priming, and they work, although I think the 4F may be faster. However, if I run out of FFFFg, I know I can fall back on 3F for priming. I have not tried either of these coarser powders through this priming flask. I believe either would probably work, after a fashion, but I do know the 4F flows very well through this flask head. I have not measured the ID of the spout, but can do that if anybody needs that tidbit of information.

A lot of guys swear by priming directly from the horn, using the same powder as the main charge. My problem with that is not the granulation, but limited control. I am a klutz. When I prime with the "big horn," I tend to get too little or too much in the pan, but what's worse, powder granules get on top of the lock bolster and all over the rim of the pan, and even down on the feather spring below the frizzen's pivot. I can sweep most of the excess powder off with my pan brush but this adds a step to the loading procedure and I inevitably miss a few grains. Depending on how much powder is scattered about the lock, your "flash in the pan" can become a Vesuvian eruption. Not necessarily unsafe, but very impressive. Powder grains on the rim of the pan also prevent the pan from closing completely, which may be a concern in very humid weather. The small diameter nozzle and thumb button on the priming flask allows very good control of how much powder I dispense and it enables me to keep all of it in the pan.

I have used "blank" paper cartridges stoked with 2F for musket drill. The loading procedure involves tearing off the end of the cartridge and priming and then closing the pan before charging the musket. You have a leather hammerstall on the frizzen and the cock is at half cock (which is the safety on a flintlock), so the procedure is safe. You can sort of pinch the end of the paper cartridge while dispensing the priming charge to control the flow of powder, which works very well. Even I can do it without losing and scattering powder all over the lock. This is much easier for me than priming from the big horn, and the 2F priming charge lights up quickly and reliably enough.

Regardless of which priming dispenser and technique you choose, I wish you the best of luck with it. Flintlocks are a whole different animal from percussion, but if you have a good lock, you keep the flint sharp and properly adjusted and the frizzen clean, a flintlock is just as reliable and nearly as fast as percussion.

Best regards,

Notchy Bob
 
The biggest priming mistake you can make is too much powder in the pan. It does not take very much at all to light off the main charge. Too much powder will give your real slow lock time "hang fires". If your hunting, just prime from your main horn, 1.5f, 2f, 3f, all will give good fast lock times.
 
I use a couple priming flasks & also prime from the horn, as mood and setting dictate. One primer has a "tip gate" seal. It and my horn tend to sometimes fill the pan w/ more than i want. Being a tad frugal, I'll tip what I can of the excess back into the horn(s). I can catch most of it.

Probably get me kicked off some ranges as foolishly unsafe, but I mostl;y shoot on a friend's property. I figure I'm old enough to be allowed some (intentional) folly.
 

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