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Attaching woven straps to leather possibility bags

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I am working with a weaver who is making me a woven strap for a leather possibilities bag that I recently finished up.

I plan to attach a rectangle buckle to the bag, then the strap to the buckle. Here’s a pic of the buckle:

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The strap will be similar to this one below, except wider to take up the fill 1.5” width of the above buckle:

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I have never worked with woven straps before, and I’m seeking advice from those who have.

1-I’d love to see pics of how others have done this. In particular, how you’ve sewed the strap to a buckle.

2-I assume i need to cut a leather “wrap” to sew to the strap, and through the buckle. Is this the way to go? Versus just threading the cotton strap through the buckle and sew back onto itself?

3- Has anyone done this in a way that allows the strap to be removed?

4- How are folks handling the loose ends of threads that are at the end of these woven straps?

5-Any other “gotcha’s” that I should know about??

Appreciate the collective experiences of this group! Let’s see your pics and ideas!!
 
3- Has anyone done this in a way that allows the strap to be removed?
Punch holes in the piece of leather, place the loop on the leather, fold the leather over, place the end of the belt between the flaps, work a hole in the braid with an awl (or knitting needle), stick a leather thong through, and tie knots on both sides.
 
Punch holes in the piece of leather, place the loop on the leather, fold the leather over, place the end of the belt between the flaps, work a hole in the braid with an awl (or knitting needle), stick a leather thong through, and tie knots on both sides.
I’ve, read this a few times, and just cant follow it.If you have a picture, perhaps i could figure it out?
 
This is how I tackled the problem.
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I definitely prefer just dealing with leather.
I've used the button on one back corner of the bag as a strap attachment/adjustment, ala the "Gusler Virginia bag," a few times now. Works out great. Be sure to back the button on the other side of the panel with another small flat button.
 
I made this several years ago.

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Personally, I think the woven straps look good, but I really don't like using them. They're SLICK, and I have enough problem with the shot bag swinging and sliding around as it is. I'd rather have a leather strap that is much more grippy.
 
1-I’d love to see pics of how others have done this. In particular, how you’ve sewed the strap to a buckle.

2-I assume i need to cut a leather “wrap” to sew to the strap, and through the buckle. Is this the way to go? Versus just threading the cotton strap through the buckle and sew back onto itself?
3- Has anyone done this in a way that allows the strap to be removed?
4- How are folks handling the loose ends of threads that are at the end of these woven straps?
#1 I have one horn with a woven strap, no problems. I don't use a buckle. I like to have leather to fasten to the horn.
#2 I do use a piece of leather sewn to the woven strap, but just as an anchor point for a thong, no wrap.
#3 My strap is easily removed and adjusted for length.
#4 My woven strap has the ends of the warp tied off so that everything stays put. I like the look, so I just let them dangle.

I sewed one end of a small piece of leather to each end of the strap about five inches above the tassel. I punched two holes through the other end of each leather piece, threaded a thong through them and tied a knot to keep it in place. That leaves me a long leather thong on each end of the woven strap to fasten to the horn by whatever means is necessary or that I want. This rig has been in hard service for over 20 years without needing attention.

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Thank you gentlemen for these suggestions and photographs.

I hadn't thought of the "slippery" problem that Stophe mentions, but this bag will be a practical "to be used in the field" bag, not just a decoration. I had wondered about whether I'd like using a woven strap or not though, thus my desire to affix that rectangle buckle to the bag permanently, and then attach the strap to the buckle in such a manner as to be removable if I decide that I want leather instead.

You all have provided me with several ideas to make that happen. Thank you! I'll be sure to come back to this thread to show you what I've done once I receive and attach the strap!
 
Years ago I bought a cheaply made horn at a gunshow with just a thin leather thong as a strap I thought that's the way they were made. It did work but a thin piece of leather is not the most comfortable thing on your shoulders. I later went the strap route for comfort and looks but never really knew how to properly attach it to the horn ( or bag). This thread had been a big help.
 
What sort of thread is recommnded for the sewing? Simple Cotton, Polyester Blend, Dental Floss, Fishing Line etc?
 
I like waxed linen usually. But, lately I've been using a really nice hemp thread available from Tandy. It is a little expensive but is very nice, and very strong for its diameter. It is smoother than other hemp thread I have found. Carriage Brand is the name.

I've used thin cotton "kite string" for some rougher projects.
Loath artificial sinew.
 
I defer to others who are more PC than me, but I use Tandy’s waxed & braided thread. It is super strong, and the wax makes for pretty smooth stitching. I do not think the braided could be Period Correct, but it works well for me, and I’m not in any sort of PC competition. I generally like to get things about right, but I also used a dremmel to sand my antler buttons too!
 

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