P. Bodini Schultzen Rifle

I recently came into possession of a rifle made by P.Bodini in Italy. The rifle is a Schultzen style, 45 caliber (.450/.459 bore) - 1/48 inch twist. 12 equally spaced lands and grooves.

Anyone have any experience in shooting these? Ball or bullets?

Yeah!
I think you should send it to me :grin:
It'll never pass for a Hawken! :shocked2:
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Siringo said:

I recently came into possession of a rifle made by P.Bodini in Italy. The rifle is a Schultzen style, 45 caliber (.450/.459 bore) - 1/48 inch twist. 12 equally spaced lands and grooves.

Anyone have any experience in shooting these? Ball or bullets?

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Schultzen or Schutzen?
That twist will do just fine with round balls. I have no experience with bullets but some claim it is also good with those.
And, Hey? hotoSmile:

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/p-bondini-firearms.78646/

Links to other forums are automatically blocked by the Muzzleloading Forums computer.

I misspelled it, but you get the drift!

so why bother asking a question if the answer cant be seen.

Siringo said:

I misspelled it, but you get the drift!

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OK. But around here, you never know. It might have been a rifle I had never heerd of before. :v

I found some great pictures of the firearm in question. they are on the gun auction.com (no space between gun and auction) site item 7116634, it has the wildest cheek piece I have ever seen on a rifle.

Auction ended on 2005, still has pictures.

I'll post a picture when I put it back together. My concern is the twelve groove rifling and fouling. Obviously a rifle such as this would need wiping between shots.

The .40 caliber Schuetzen I built needs to be swabbed between shots.



The barrel was made by Phil Quaglino in Florida.
It has a .4000 caliber bore and .403 diameter rifling grooves with a twist of 1:18 inches.

It is made to shoot paper patched slugs which clear the bore during loading by about one thousandths of an inch.

The Schuetzen match as shot during the 19th Century involves shooting an iron sighted rifle offhand at a target 200 yards away.

Precision is the name of the game.
The target 25 ring is 1 1/2 inches in diameter. :hmm:

:bow: I couldnt even see the 1 1/2" ring at 100 yds :surrender:

Zonie said:

The .40 caliber Schuetzen I built needs to be swabbed between shots.

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Your talent seizes to amaze me Zonie!

Your explanations in helping others. Your never ending pool of knowledge that one can learn from.

Also your gun building abilities are of the best there is out there!

Your quiet a person. I am glad to be in associated with you through this great forum!

Just had to say that!

Respectfully, Cowboy :hatsoff:

I hope it doesn't make you seize, that could be very problematic. :grin:

Cowboy said:

Your talent seizes to amaze me Zonie!

Your explanations in helping others. Your never ending pool of knowledge that one can learn from...

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:redface:


(Hopefully, you meant to say "...never seizes..." ?

Oh well.

I've had a lot worse said about my knowledge. :rotf:

Don't mind me Zonie.

I'm just a Caveman! :haha:

Respectfully, Cowboy :v

Sorry - but no pictures.

Think this is the gun you're talking about.
http://www.carolinashootersclub.com/data/attachments/11/11560-a42e5c47022bf6486805d483734661e7.jpg

Wes - Yes it is.

Rifleman1776 said:

Schultzen or Schutzen?
That twist will do just fine with round balls. I have no experience with bullets but some claim it is also good with those.
And, Hey? hotoSmile:

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I have one of those. Was heading to range to shoot it today but had a flat!

Is a real beauty. Will have a hard time passing for antique with it's stainless steel barrel & all. Maybe it's just super highly polished steel? You know people back then had the time to sit and polish stuff like crazy.