Problem w/J. Browning Mt Rifle

I bought it many years ago, never shot it, sold it to a friend who was killed this year. I bought it back from his widow.He never shot it, it hung on his wall for 28 rears or so. When I pulled out the ramrod, the brass tip stayed in the channel. Any ideas other than covering the tip with glue and letting it dry?
All these years and I have never had this happen!
Thanks
Nit Wit

Try using a bronze bore brush that is slightly over size to fit in the ram rod tip. (50 caliber size should fit in the 7/16" ram rod tip that the JBR uses.) Insert the brush (on a rod) into the tip and twist slightly. It should grab the tip so you can pull it out.

Dribble a few grains of powder under the nipple. Try to seat the brass tip, then pointing the muzzle at the dirt, shoot it out.

Did you take the barrel off and look to see if you can see the tip in the channel?

Are you sure the tip was even on the ramrod?

nit wit said:

When I pulled out the ramrod, the brass tip stayed in the channel.

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Since you write, "stayed in the channel", I am assuming the metal butt of the ramrod, which holds the threaded cleaning attachments, came off, and is lodged within the stock, beneath the barrel? The tip of the ramrod did not come off while loading and is stuck in the breech?

Grimord said:

Try using a bronze bore brush that is slightly over size to fit in the ram rod tip. (50 caliber size should fit in the 7/16" ram rod tip that the JBR uses.) Insert the brush (on a rod) into the tip and twist slightly. It should grab the tip so you can pull it out.

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This is a good idea.

IF this doesn't work, and if the metal end of the ramrod is threaded so it's a female end.... get a long screw with a matching thread. It's likely 8-32 or 10-32. Cut off the head of the screw so all you have is the threaded shaft. Put the threaded shaft into another ramrod with a female end, with a dab or two of locktite. This is now, temporarily, a male end. Insert this into the Browning ramrod channel, and attempt to screw the male end into the stuck female end within the stock, and remove it that way. After extraction...apply a little heat and the locktite will soften and you can remove the threaded shaft and return the other ramrod to its original configuration.



Pray the reason it's stuck is not that the former owner tried to glue it in place decades ago and glued it into the stock.....

LD

Rifleman1776 said:

Dribble a few grains of powder under the nipple. Try to seat the brass tip, then pointing the muzzle at the dirt, shoot it out.

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It's not in the barrel!
Nit Wit

sb 54 cal. said:

Did you take the barrel off and look to see if you can see the tip in the channel?

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no dice!Nit Wit

Loyalist Dave said:

Since you write, "stayed in the channel", I am assuming the metal butt of the ramrod, which holds the threaded cleaning attachments, came off, and is lodged within the stock, beneath the barrel? The tip of the ramrod did not come off while loading and is stuck in the breech?



This is a good idea.

IF this doesn't work, and if the metal end of the ramrod is threaded so it's a female end.... get a long screw with a matching thread. It's likely 8-32 or 10-32. Cut off the head of the screw so all you have is the threaded shaft. Put the threaded shaft into another ramrod with a female end, with a dab or two of locktite. This is now, temporarily, a male end. Insert this into the Browning ramrod channel, and attempt to screw the male end into the stuck female end within the stock, and remove it that way. After extraction...apply a little heat and the locktite will soften and you can remove the threaded shaft and return the other ramrod to its original configuration.

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Pray the reason it's stuck is not that the former owner tried to glue it in place decades ago and glued it into the stock.....

LD

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LD:
It's in the channel, will try the brush trick!
Nit Wit

Alright everyone, The tip was not even down the channel. I tried the brush, then dropped a screw driver tip down the channel with my ear to the stock. No metallic sound.Somewhere in the 28 years my friend had it, it disappeared. Neither one of us ever shot it. Thank you all for the suggestions.
Nit Wit

nit wit said:

Alright everyone, The tip was not even down the channel. I tried the brush, then dropped a screw driver tip down the channel with my ear to the stock. No metallic sound.Somewhere in the 28 years my friend had it, it disappeared. Neither one of us ever shot it. Thank you all for the suggestions.

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All's Well That Ends Well!

LD