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hailcaesar

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Would you consider the TC Hawkens a good choice for a first time flintlock rifle? if you were to use this in any reenacting what time period would it be or is it just too modern looking?
 
I think something with a full stock would be better for reenacting but I'm no expert
 
I was told my traditions 50 cal Pennsylvania flinter is a correct rifle for that period as it met all the specs, some want correct pieces in reenactments.
 
The Thompson Center Hawkens, in my opinion, is not really suitable for true "reenactments" earlier than the 1850's and even then there will be many who say it is just a modern gun. Actually, the TC Hawken is fairly close to some of the guns that were made in California following the gold rush.

Now, if we are talking about going to a somewhat casual rendezvous or get together, many of them are more tolerant and would be happy to have someone new in their camp, even if they were carrying a TC Hawken.

The early TC Hawkens sometimes had problems with their flintlocks. After a number of years of producing them, they redesigned the cock (hammer) and the frizzen to improve them.

The old cock had a notable S bend to it with a cutout area like the one in this picture.
Old-TC-Lock.jpg


The lower area of the new design cock doesn't have the cutout area in the S shape and looks like this.

New-TC-Flintlock.jpg


At one time, TC would replace the old lock with a new lock for free but now that they have been bought out by Smith & Wesson, they don't offer that deal any more. In fact, they don't carry many Hawken parts any more but since TC sold thousands of these rifles there isn't any problem with getting replacement parts on the web.
 
Traditions Pennsylvania is more historically correct. TC is more correct for the Mountain Man and Westward Migration time frame. Both are good for beginners. .50 caliber is also a good starting point.

IMO, I would much rather learn, and make my mistakes on a mass produced rifle, such as Traditions and TC, than a hand crafted one that someone put hundreds of hours into
 
On the Traditions rifles do they use the same lock and barrel between the Pennsylvania and the Kentucky rifle. I know the stock is one piece and walnut on the Pennsylvania . It is a good $280 more. Would the Kentucky rifle work?

I do civil war reenacting and it is hard to get people interested when they are priced out from doing it.
 
The newer TC hammers may work better ( no problems with the older style one on my early Renegade) but they are ugly. Just saying...
 
The Thompson Center Hawkens, in my opinion, is not really suitable for true "reenactments" earlier than the 1850's and even then there will be many who say it is just a modern gun. Actually, the TC Hawken is fairly close to some of the guns that were made in California following the gold rush.

Now, if we are talking about going to a somewhat casual rendezvous or get together, many of them are more tolerant and would be happy to have someone new in their camp, even if they were carrying a TC Hawken.

The early TC Hawkens sometimes had problems with their flintlocks. After a number of years of producing them, they redesigned the cock (hammer) and the frizzen to improve them.

The old cock had a notable S bend to it with a cutout area like the one in this picture.
View attachment 19258

The lower area of the new design cock doesn't have the cutout area in the S shape and looks like this.

View attachment 19259

At one time, TC would replace the old lock with a new lock for free but now that they have been bought out by Smith & Wesson, they don't offer that deal any more. In fact, they don't carry many Hawken parts any more but since TC sold thousands of these rifles there isn't any problem with getting replacement parts on the web.
What helped me a great deal with the old style hammer was to make my own flints almost down to a muff pistol size. Took a frizzen for a Kentucky from taylor and company and after three hours of dremel mods to it it works great right with the stock frizzen spring. Gun goes off with no delays with the exception of the flint getting too dull.

Just my 2c
SM
 
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