used muzzleloaders

There’s a Navy Arms .45 mule ear on gunbroker right now. Nice walnut and it looks like a great example!

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/844470441

Dibbuk said:

I must have the exception, then, because my Navy Arms half-stock .50 percussion is the most accurate rifle I own. I have shot several possibles at 50 yards with it. and it shots rings around both of the GRRW barreled half-stocks I have.

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Frontier's said:

Navy Arms is far from "lower" quality.

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AH but in both of your cases, you are looking at a smaller "sample" than I who used to sell Navy Arms products. Navy arms carried a lot of rifles, smoothbores, and pistols made by other manufacturers. So in the first case, Dibbuk, you mention the accuracy of the shooting of your piece, while others would point to wood and metal fit, and historic accuracy of hardware, and say that is "less" quality, than say a similar item from Pedersoli. I have a CVA "longrifle" with a two piece stock in .45 that is very very accurate with its Spanish Jukkar barrel, but one would not rate it as "high quality".

As for Frontier's assertion that the Navy Arms items are, "far from 'lower' quality", again, "lower" is a comparison that refers to the brands found above Navy Arms on the list. NOTE Navy Arms is rated higher on my list when rating flintlocks than the list rating caplocks, because having such a wide variety of traditional firearms over decades, for a wide range of pricing, Navy Arms has sold some cheaply made guns.

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Dibbuk said:

I must have the exception, then, because my Navy Arms half-stock .50 percussion is the most accurate rifle I own. I have shot several possibles at 50 yards with it. and it shots rings around both of the GRRW barreled half-stocks I have.

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I have owned both a Lyman and Navy arms . These two guns shot extremely well with no problems. I wouldn't turn around for the difference.I sold the Lyman to a friend, regretfully so . The reason I kept the navy arms was only the look. Lyman had a snell that looked like it was cut off with a hacksaw ? To me it didn't look like a snell should look. Like I said both were deadly accurate!

LME said:

snell

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Just woke up, what's a snell?

He's referring to the bolster or area where the nipple screws into the barrel. It is somewhat snail like in shape and people often call it the "snail".

Ok, got it. Yeah some of those are a tight squeeze without the right tool.

Shorthanded said:

I think I have narrowed down my choice to a Pedersoli Frontier, in percussion in .45 or .50 Thanks for your input.

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Check your state hunting regulations.
Here in Idaho, .45 is the minimum for whitetail and blacktail deer, and Puma/Panther/Mountain Lion.

.50 is the minimum for Mountain Goats, Big Horn Sheep, Moose, Elk, Black Bear, antelope, and a few others.

Obviously if you're going to hunt with the rifle, you'll need at least the minimum legal caliber.
For versatility in what I could use it for hunting, I'd go with the .50, since it is legal for more of the available yummy game critters here.

(I actually went with a .54 T/C Hawken, but plan on adding a .50 "Kentucky" style rifle "someday".)

Shorthanded said:

Long time since I have been involved with muzzleloaders, looking to buy a used gun. Of the manufacturers how would you rate the following. Tingle,Navy Arms, CVA, Thompson, Pedersoli and Lyman. I know the last are at the top. Thanks

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I see you just bought "Rebel's" 54 GPR. Good choice, I think you will like it.

Boomerang said:

I see you just bought "Rebel's" 54 GPR. Good choice, I think you will like it.

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Boomerang said:

I see you just bought "Rebel's" 54 GPR. Good choice, I think you will like it.

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Heavy, but will make good bear and deer Riffle

Bar rifle.

In a store bought rifle I'll take a Thompson Center or Lyman over any of the rest all day long .