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1861 Parker Hale Enfield musketoon 58 caliber rear sight part needed

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I recently acquired an 1861 Parker Hale Enfield reproduction made in Birmingham, England. It is a real beauty but is missing the slide in the rear sight. Does anyone out there have a clue where I might find one? Or perhaps if the sight is the same as some other models...like the 1853? (Taylor's and Co. on the Internet seems to have the parts for the latter.)
 
I recently acquired an 1861 Parker Hale Enfield reproduction made in Birmingham, England. It is a real beauty but is missing the slide in the rear sight. Does anyone out there have a clue where I might find one? Or perhaps if the sight is the same as some other models...like the 1853? (Taylor's and Co. on the Internet seems to have the parts for the latter.)

The back-sight slide for the Parker-Hale Musketoon is shorter than the 2/3 band rifle, and is graduated to just 600 yards.

You might care to check with Taylors about that.

I've just called up Henry Krank here in UK - the usual source for anything relating to P-H's replications - to get a blank - 'all gone, many years ago', says James.
 
That's odd that they never mentioned that when I called a couple of hours ago. I have NOW spoken to a clerk who knows what he is talking about. He advises me that -

1. The Pedersoli backsight is sold as one unit - no component parts are available. You can order it from Kranks, less the 20% sales tax we have here.

2. The old sight, whatever it is you have, would need removing in toto, and the new sight replacing it. This IS a gunsmith job - the original was brazed on. OR, you can cannibalize the new unit for the only part you need.

3. I can send you the dimensions of the slider from my own Musketoon, and you can get a shop to make it for you. Might be the cheapest of all options.

BTW, the craftsmanship of the Pedersoli version is nothing less than appalling - the finish is not worthy of the word and it looks like nothing more than an oil-blackened casting. and £104? You have to be kidding. By way of contrast, the P-H version is a little work of art, as, indeed, the original was in its time.

PS @BisleyJohn - the diameter of the barrels of both guns is identical at that point, having looked at and measured them both a while back in a comparison.
 
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The Forum guys are the BEST! Thank You for turning me on to S&S and Henry Krank! Both are resources I was not familiar with but are great to keep in mind. I think Mr.Foley has the best idea, having looked at the Pedersoli, of having a part made. Thanks Again for taking the time to respond to a fellow shooter in need!!!
 
Do you even need the slide for realistic ranges for recreational shooting? Some originals that saw action are missing the slides, either they fell off or soldiers monkeyed with the little friction nut in the back and they fell off. A number of original Springfield rifles are missing the sight leaves because guys would take them off and discard them. It's not incorrect to have a "field simplified" sight.

Otherwise would a Pedersoli Volunteer slide not fit?

The ladder contains the 100 meter sight notch in the down position, unless you're conducting Volley fire you should be good to 200 meters with what you've got. Remember to "half sight" when you get a sight picture, it was how they were designed to be used.
 
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Do you even need the slide for realistic ranges for recreational shooting? Some originals that saw action are missing the slides, either they fell off or soldiers monkeyed with the little friction nut in the back and they fell off. A number of original Springfield rifles are missing the sight leaves because guys would take them off and discard them. It's not incorrect to have a "field simplified" sight.

Otherwise would a Pedersoli Volunteer slide not fit?

The ladder contains the 100 meter sight notch in the down position, unless you're conducting Volley fire you should be good to 200 meters with what you've got. Remember to "half sight" when you get a sight picture, it was how they were designed to be used.

All that you say is true, but I know the feeling that Falconer is going through - getting a new-to-him gun with a piece missing that SHOULD be there. All that is holding the slide on is a tiny screw, not a friction nut as you describe, of a size more usually found in a watch, that holds on the spring retainer backing to the slide. I put a dab of nail varnish on mine in 1974 and so far it has held up just fine.

And yes, no doubt the Pedersoli slide would do just fine, but it's not exactly easy to find without it being part of the complete unit, at around $140 or so.
 
Tac...You've been a HUGE help to me! You're right that I want the weapon the way it came from the factory. I may never use the slide for longer shots but it will be complete just in case. And...I'll use a little lock-tite to hold that screw in place. I ended up ordering a slide for an 1853 Enfield from Taylor's that, I hope, will work. It was cheaper than the Pedersoli complete sight. My gunsmith may have to fit it if there is a problem. I ordered the sergeants tool from International Military Antiques. I think I'm set now to burn some powder!

BTW...you're far from being the "patronizing jerk" some on the forum seem to think you are!!!
 
I'd start by calling Pedersoli's US distributors (or where the OP is located) and trying to get just a slide. Sometimes it depends on who answers the phone or eventually maybe they'll get tired of you calling and just send you a $5 slide.

Ironically getting original Springfield sight leaves is probably easier than getting 1970s era Parker Hale sight parts.

EBay might turn up an original part.

If the rifle is intended to be a shooter I'd just enjoy it as is during my search for parts. I found an original Enfield rear sight leaf screw on Numrich but it was too short for my P-H. You never know what may pop up.

Chiappa is terrible with providing parts , I tried to buy a smoothbore. 58 Springfield barrel from them and they flat out refused
 
Chiappa is an Italian company, operating from Italy, and therefore must comply with Italian laws regarding the sales of pressure-bearing firearms components, of which the barrel is but one. It is not a matter of company policy, trying to spoil your day by refusing to sell you a barrel, it is the law of the Republic of Italy as a member of the CIP, that is spoiling your day.
 
It's unfortunate.....I'm like, I'm willing to pay the $320 for a smoothbore 39" Springfield barrel, because I thought a .58 Smoothbore would be a fun conversion for my CS Richmond, for slinging round balls at the range .

Chiappa in broken English "No"

This also destroyed any hope of getting a rifled .69 1842 barrel with no rear sight dovetail or screw hole out of them.
 
That's odd that they never mentioned that when I called a couple of hours ago. I have NOW spoken to a clerk who knows what he is talking about. He advises me that -

1. The Pedersoli backsight is sold as one unit - no component parts are available. You can order it from Kranks, less the 20% sales tax we have here.

2. The old sight, whatever it is you have, would need removing in toto, and the new sight replacing it. This IS a gunsmith job - the original was brazed on. OR, you can cannibalize the new unit for the only part you need.

3. I can send you the dimensions of the slider from my own Musketoon, and you can get a shop to make it for you. Might be the cheapest of all options.

BTW, the craftsmanship of the Pedersoli version is nothing less than appalling - the finish is not worthy of the word and it looks like nothing more than an oil-blackened casting. and £104? You have to be kidding. By way of contrast, the P-H version is a little work of art, as, indeed, the original was in its time.

PS @BisleyJohn - the diameter of the barrels of both guns is identical at that point, having looked at and measured them both a while back in a comparison.
Hey this is my first post so not sure the best way to get in touch with you. I just got a parker hale 1861 enfield and I have the same issue as the person with the original post. I'm missing the slider for the rear sight. I was wondering if I can get the dimensions of the slider from you so I can get a shop to make one?
 
Hey this is my first post so not sure the best way to get in touch with you. I just got a parker hale 1861 enfield and I have the same issue as the person with the original post. I'm missing the slider for the rear sight. I was wondering if I can get the dimensions of the slider from you so I can get a shop to make one?

Give me a couple of hours to recuperate from our daily visit to our hospitalised daughter and I'll do it. Just confirm that you mean the moving part of this back sight and we're good.....

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