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Desperate Lee said:

Duh huh no.


No not quite. Observe my jar head friend.

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My brother! Hope you don’t mind, I’m showing this to my dear woman... I believe you’ve got me temporarily off the hook!

My friend i "borrowed" this room almost 20 years ago. My wife is giving me fair warning to clear out some stuff. She wants her spare bedroom back. That may not happen for awhile.

Desperate Lee said:

My friend i "borrowed" this room almost 20 years ago. My wife is giving me fair warning to clear out some stuff. She wants her spare bedroom back. That may not happen for awhile.

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She says the same about the shop, er, she calls it a garage... but it’s got tools, safes and motorcycles in it, sounds like a shop to me!

Lost my garage years ago. Winter comes and my stuff goes outside or in storage so her plants have a warm place to last out the winter. Last year my 77 MGB convertable spent the winter under a tarp in the driveway.

Ouch! And I thought I’d married a tough little lady! We’re pretty compatible really, I don’t go into the kitchen unless I’m cooking meat and she doesn’t go into the shop, unless, well ever really. She’s more than happy to ride the motorcycles and eat the stuff that comes off the grill or out of the smoker though.

Well right now i got too much stuff in the garage. I spent 20 odd years working as a machine tool tech repairing and installing computerized mills, lathes, grinders, and such. I have 20 years of tools i collected and used, was in my service van, now in the garage in our way. Just cant bring myself to start throwing tools, that i may never use again, away.

She had to be tough to marry a Marine. 5'4" 110 lbs soaking wet this is one tough and gracious little Bohemian woman. I could have done no better. Been married 47 years and never regretted one. She has no problem with my hobbies, except when they infringe on her space. Know what i mean.

Exactly... like us! Marines do tend to attract a type... my wife is 5’2” and a buck five or so. Scrappy doesn’t even begin to describe the girl. She’s a preschool teacher and has been for 20 years or so. Tough as an old boot but generous and tender to a fault. I cannot believe my good fortune, we married way up there brother!

I semi retired about 15 years ago, had an auction and sold most all of the tools, maybe to reinforce the decision. I’m busier now than ever in a new career and my primary tool is a laptop computer but I still have a garage full of tools. I love to tinker.

So, the ball hone was a great idea that didn’t work at all... I ran it in and out until the wires holding the balls collapsed and it didn’t remove an appreciable amount of metal. On to a hand reamer.

I also came up with a .454 sizing die and ran a bunch of .490 cast round ball thru it using my little Lee hand loading press. It works but it’s difficult to do. I’m in the market now for a beefier bench mounted single stage press since the kid is unlikely to give up my old Rockchucker...

The 190 grain ball-ets work pretty well. Decently accurate, or at least in my initial testing, I could see making up a formed punch that will give me a different nose profile, wide flat, wider flat or full wadcutter.

Now your talking brother. Just a little more punch for the old 44. I been thinking about using some 54 cal balls down to .452 but i will need another sizer to go in between my .452 die. Actually i may get Lee to make me a custom or just open up my chambers more, but now we're too long for the chamber and powder capacity suffers. A 178 grain lead bullet is nothing to sneeze at from a 44 NMA.
DL

I wonder if you could jam them into the .501 die first? You might be right though, you could lose too much powder capacity. Although they might be just the thing in the Old Army, Dragoons or Walker...

That is correct. Would work inROA and Walker and maybe a 3rd Dragoon, all of which i dont hsve. My 44 Colt and NMA's are all i have to shoot big slugs. My short barreled Colts and my old G&G Rebel are all PRB guns. I have some 36 conicals GreyFox made for me and i might try them in the 62 PoPo..
DL

I was able to squeeze 195 grns into the space a .457” ball takes up. But I found my NMA isn’t as accurate if I fill the space with powder so I’ll fill it with more lead. Thinking it should be somewhere between 205-220 grns (with 33 weighed grns of 3F Olde E).
Also considering a medium depth HP version to try (want to see about a balanced penetration vs expansion projectile since all I need is for it to poke through the other side).

Lets talk about another way to build cartridges for revolver. I read somewhere once before that someone was gluing Pyrodex pellets to bullets or RB and using these like a paper cartridge. Anyone have any success doing this?

Desperate Lee said:

Lost my garage years ago. Winter comes and my stuff goes outside or in storage so her plants have a warm place to last out the winter. Last year my 77 MGB convertable spent the winter under a tarp in the driveway.

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Agnes (my '52 MGTD) gets first dibs on garage space. The rest of the garage belongs to the wife and I get what's leftover (which isn't very much). I tried using the "Garage is mine, house is yours" defense once. All that got me was laughed at.

Yeah I get the " What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine. " argument all the time. God you got to love it.DL

I just recently bought a Davidson & Dow (sp?) mold. Haven't had time to tinker with it yet, but if things work as they should and I can get the point where it's worth the time to make combustible paper cartridges, things will be pretty cool. Duelist54 has some nice vids on this.

ha! here's a link:

I use .457 rb in my 1858s. I like that they add a bit more bearing surface.
Seems that if a .457 is difficult to ram with onboard ram then something is afoot. No big issue with mine. A tad more pressure but not so much I would call it difficult by any means. Conicals are another thing. I always use a bench loader to insure alignment. At any rate the conicals I cast the back end will start with less pressure than the rest of it. Helps alignment. I shoot 20gns with ball and 15 with conical.
Had to ream cylinder for my Walker. The bores were too close to barrel max. Actually just a half hair short. Reamed to .45-.451 for .457rb and it made a huge difference in accuracy. Also increased cone angle and polished it.

well, I mis= spoke … it's Johnston & Dow (and not Davidson & Dow) … please excuse my error … this is the venerable aluminum mold, and they heat up quickly and make an excellent bullet. while many have claimed that aluminum molds are no good, I have several that are over 40 years old and they still work just fine.

I am using soft lead (don't have a tester, so I can't say what the Brinnell number really is) - it dents easily with my thumbnail. When (or if) I get done with housework, i'll go mike the bullet... then i'll 'slug' the barrel...

then i'll go solve world hunger.