Pedersoli Custom shop version of the Remington NMA anybody?

Not for me, I hasten to add - coughing up almost $1500 for a spiffied-up version of a $500 revolver is not my style, but I DO know that plenty of you here have piles of money to burn on this kind of thing.

Now that the Hege version is no longer available, and the FWB model is but a distant memory, Davide Pedersoli have taken up the challenge and done a mighty work-over on their standard NMA58 to turn it into a target-shooting sure-fire winner, according to Signore Stefano Pedersoli.

If anybody here has bought one, I'd like your impressions to pass on to a UK-based shooter.

Thanks.

Cherry's shows them at $1,030, special order.

From the description on the Pedersoli site, the price does not seem out of line for a top of the line, line pistol. I have a feeling there is no comparing a Pietta to a Pedersoli.

A Ruger Old Army in .36 put together by Haygerman will cost you $1,000 if you can find one,
as there will be no more.

So it's a better Italian made copy of a Remington 1858?

What does it offer vs. a Uberti?

Has anyone actually inspected one, in and out, for fitment and finishings? Have they miker and inspected chambers, bores, etc? Or is all the real quality in nothing but the exterior finishment?

One thing I do not like is the mirror polished ring about the cylinder notches. Looks hideous and I can't imagine it does much to the hammer pull and who cares, the trigger pull is what matters.

Stantheman86 said:

So it's a better Italian made copy of a Remington 1858?

What does it offer vs. a Uberti?

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THAT is precisely what I'm attempting to discover. The Hege version was made like a watch, giving some justification for the HUGE price tag- almost $2000 here in yUK. The FWB version was the same.

A couple of years back the open-frame revolver world championship was won by Hungarian Gyula Mészáros, a gentleman who looks like Paul Bunyan, only bigger, shooting a Colt Walker. Made by Uberti, IIRC. His only insistence was trying the trigger, to see if he liked it. Seems he liked it. Watch him shooting -

Even the Pietta "Shooters" model is just a few bucks under $1000.

We've gone way past "reproduction " at this point, and these are pretty much cap and ball match revolvers in the shape of an 1858 Rem....made for the huge European match market, and somewhat for the US.

I'm gonna watch that video when I have free quiet time later, I love that kind of stuff. I enjoy that Hungarian professor's videos at capandball on YouTube, that guy is like a world Champion flintlock pistol shooter.

Yup, he's a hoot, his name is Balász Németh - the man behind the MLAIC shoots in Hungary and an eight-year running champion pistols shooter with cap and flint. He is a Doctor of history, which he teaches. He and his brother run a mostly-BP gun store in Budapest with very close ties to Davide Pedersoli, for whose products it is THE source in Eastern Europe - see www.kapszli.hu. His visits to the factory, and his presence on the DP stand at IWA, are a testament to the esteem in which he is held by this Italian company.

You might ask on the N-SSA forum about the Tom Ball Remingtons. They are very reasonable when compared to a Hege Remmy and people swear by them. There are also other tuners of Remingtons as well that get very high marks.

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Badgerfarm said:

You might ask on the N-SSA forum about the Tom Ball Remingtons. They are very reasonable when compared to a Hege Remmy and people swear by them. There are also other tuners of Remingtons as well that get very high marks.

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Tom Ball passed away many years ago and the revolvers he built don't show up for sale all that often. The revolvers he built for resale were on a Pietta frame but he would build on your gun too. I have a Rogers & Spencer he did for me about 26 years ago and I just acquired a Ball Remington that a friend had.

I wonder how he keeps the rammer from dropping?

One handed 25m Bullseye with a Walker? I kinda want to try this now ,also I now miss the Uberti Walker and 3rd model Dragoon I sold years ago.

Stantheman86 said:

I wonder how he keeps the rammer from dropping?

One handed 25m Bullseye with a Walker? I kinda want to try this now ,also I now miss the Uberti Walker and 3rd model Dragoon I sold years ago.

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The powder charge he uses is very light....so the rammer stays put.

Rat said:

The powder charge he uses is very light....so the rammer stays put.

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His loads are only 30gr plus semolina. And how he holds the weight up is easy - Gyula is 6ft 7in and has hands like a basketball player.

Video title - Precision shooting with a 1858 Remington .44 black powder revolver - replica by D. Pedersoli
The video's caption states:
Precision shooting with a 1858 Remington .44 black powder revolver - replica by D. Pedersoli (made in Italy). ISSF Pistol Precision Target at 25 meters / 27 yards.
This is a "match grade" revolver for MLAIC competition.
Shooter is M. Cruz (Portugal). 18 Jun 2011. Carregueira, Belas, Sintra, Portugal.
Video camera and post-production (c) P. Mateus. 2011.

When the capandball channel test fired the Pedersoli Remington, he found that it shot the best group with a 22lr case full of 4F Swiss powder [at the end of the video].

Video title: Shooting the Pedersoli Remington percussion revolver

The video's caption states:
Test firing Pedersoli's Remington replica.
This gun is the 2011 version, the same that won the MLAIC European Championships this year.

The model is still available from Wholesale Hunter for $963 with good reviews: --->>> https://www.wholesalehunter.com/Product/Details/11124489

Test firing with different loads begins after the 7:45 mark:

That .22 shell holds about 4.6 grains of black powder if it is filled to the top of the cartridge.

At that rate, a pound of powder would give 1,519 shots.

Zonie said:

That .22 shell holds about 4.6 grains of black powder if it is filled to the top of the cartridge.

At that rate, a pound of powder would give 1,519 shots.

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Using the closed captioning due to his accent, at 11:08 he said that he loaded 11 grains of 4F Swiss, plus 24 grains of corn wad [corn meal?] plus .454 round ball.
So he must have loaded 2 empty .22 shells worth of powder.
Perhaps he's estimating the actual number of grains or Swiss 4F is heavier.

He is saying 'wheat' - his accent is identical to that of our Hungarian next-door neighbours. He is, as you surmise, using coarse-ground meal as a filler. The close-captioning uses computer-generated voice recognition, not a human interpreter, and can result in some hilarious captions.

The German-Italian made Hege-FWB Remington NMA was/is regarded by International Muzzleloading competitors as the best in the world, even at $ 1,600 USD. Coming in third behind the Pedersoli is the Pietta Remington NMA "Shooters Model" selling at $950.00 from DGW. Back in 1988, it was marketed by Pietta as the "Remington New Model Army Deluxe Revolver". It was imported by Navy Arms Company for both the NMLRA national line shooter & the international competitor and sold for $450.00, which was quite a bit compared to the run-of-the-mill Remington Army model @ $150.00. The Pietta Deluxe Remington had the full-frame grip that all Remingtons have today, and was equipped with a gain-twist rifled barrel, shot the .457 RB and had the enlarged cylinder cutaway around the nipple to accommodate the Cash revolver capper. See photo.

This is my Pietta Remington NMA Deluxe revolver with a 25 yard target I shot offhand (one-hand hold) at the NMLRA national matches in 1993. It scores a 99-5X, there's a nine at five o'clock just behind the upper frame.