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When I was in gradesschool, that is what I was taught happened.
I honestly believe that's what happened and there's enough documentation to back it up...according to the British Generals, some of the American milita units didn't fight like " Gentlemen" ...I would have been most inclined to follow the militias fighting style, it just makes sense to me.
 
Oh me oh my! That is the best story I've read in a long time. Okay BlackHillsBob, I certainly believe you! Okay, I knew we ole Tennessee boys could shoot but, danged, they sure could shoot back then! Nice shots on the British officers; shot them off their horses and at good ranges too. I bet they wiped between shots, too!


The British officers certainly did:D LOL
 
Just finished watching a documentary on the War of 1812 last night. Ole Hickory got his revenge just in time because a peace treaty had been signed six weeks before and the news of the treaty and the victory at New Orleans arrived in Washington at the same time. The victory saved President Madison's political bacon since all the defeats endured while trying to conquer Canada. I always thought War of 1812 was because the Brits were 'borrowing' sailors from our ships to help with their war with France, but that was only a part of the justification for the war.

Anyways, Johnny Horton got it pretty straight in his song about the Battle of New Orleans...'cept maybe the part about the alligator!
 
can you shooters tell me more about the rifles the tenn boys were useing back then? they were flinters but length of barrel, cal. even the twists if you have the info. i think the grooves were deep. andy jackson got his revenge and the brits never came back again with a army.also their were blacks, native americans and spanish and french pirates on the right and the left of the tenn boys shooting what they had at the brits. the brits retreated to their ships with the huge amount of dead and went home.
 
I've also read many times that the British fought using the same tactics that were in use on the European continent. In quite a few of the battles both sides fought using about the same tactics. But the colonists did have a tendency to seek cover and melt into the forests. Unlike The European plains, America was mostly densely forested east of the Mississippi. Also the Americans were accustomed to fighting American Indians and adapting to their tactics. Even the British soldiers would learn to use cover in the crowded forests.
Exaggeration was/is common in recounting claims of "amazing" shots. Truly, the American riflemen were masters of their craft and nothing like the average recruit who had to be trained with a musket. One would naturally be a master of the rifle if having been raised with this state-of-the-art technology. I remember "seeing" a few deer, and two enormous bucks, at a distance of 400 measured yards. I qualified the word seeing because I only saw occasional dots in the open pasture; and them would lose them until they moved again. But viewing them through a friends Military binocular confirmed it in fine detail. I would have passed on a shot with a modern scoped rifle, not to mention iron sights. 200 or 250 yards sounds quite plausible for a traditional Flintlock with a really good shooter. Back then and today we've had/still have many shooters with such skill. I'm just not even at the periphery of these amazing shooters.
 
i read this book in a library many years ago and it made me the gun maker and shooter im to this day. i said if they can do it i can also. i use linen for patches as they did, i build my guns to shoot as they did also. that was a proud day for americans.
so if you already making guns to shoot the way they did back then, then shouldn’t you already know the specifics of what your wanting to build? Your asking a very vague and subjective question, they used what they had, they weren’t issued any firearms from any military branch. With that being said, it could have been any Southern Mountain Rifle style, could have been a Virginia style rifle, could have been an early Lancaster... the possibilities are so many. Simply due to the lack of documentation of any real specifics on any one of the rifles, I would say we may never know 100 percent for sure. I don’t know of any surviving example of that particular battle...especially with the snipers. Someone else may chime in.
 
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it happened as i said and it was wrote down. they were the good shots as wrote down. they drove the british out of our nation with round ball lead. and that is the way it was.
 
I've also read many times that the British fought using the same tactics that were in use on the European continent. In quite a few of the battles both sides fought using about the same tactics. But the colonists did have a tendency to seek cover and melt into the forests. Unlike The European plains, America was mostly densely forested east of the Mississippi. Also the Americans were accustomed to fighting American Indians and adapting to their tactics. Even the British soldiers would learn to use cover in the crowded forests.
Exaggeration was/is common in recounting claims of "amazing" shots. Truly, the American riflemen were masters of their craft and nothing like the average recruit who had to be trained with a musket. One would naturally be a master of the rifle if having been raised with this state-of-the-art technology. I remember "seeing" a few deer, and two enormous bucks, at a distance of 400 measured yards. I qualified the word seeing because I only saw occasional dots in the open pasture; and them would lose them until they moved again. But viewing them through a friends Military binocular confirmed it in fine detail. I would have passed on a shot with a modern scoped rifle, not to mention iron sights. 200 or 250 yards sounds quite plausible for a traditional Flintlock with a really good shooter. Back then and today we've had/still have many shooters with such skill. I'm just not even at the periphery of these amazing shooters.
Excellent post sir!
 
I can now report that my first trial with WWF went extremely well. The stuff is "Super Tech" deicer WWF which is rated to -25 degrees. About 20 shots were fired. Load was 60 grains of 3F, .024" canvas patch. It did about as well as the Hoppes that I like so much. It is cheaper than Hoppes and that's another plus. Will I quit Hoppes? No, but I just won't be in a such hurry to buy more; I have a few ounces left anyway. Mink oil will remain my hunting lube of choice.

Not to ruffle any feathers, but the ID War was a war of muskets and cannon. I think of riflemen as being akin to modern snipers. Riflemen could be routed more easily than musketeers.
 
I can now report that my first trial with WWF went extremely well. The stuff is "Super Tech" deicer WWF which is rated to -25 degrees. About 20 shots were fired. Load was 60 grains of 3F, .024" canvas patch. It did about as well as the Hoppes that I like so much. It is cheaper than Hoppes and that's another plus. Will I quit Hoppes? No, but I just won't be in a such hurry to buy more; I have a few ounces left anyway. Mink oil will remain my hunting lube of choice.

Not to ruffle any feathers, but the ID War was a war of muskets and cannon. I think of riflemen as being akin to modern snipers. Riflemen could be routed more easily than musketeers.

Thanks, I’ll keep the WWF in mind and maybe even try it next time out. I use WWF in my homemade barrel blaster which is basically a bug sprayer with a long #4 stainless tube and 5 way nozzle on the tip. Good thing about the WWF is it doesn’t freeze and is the main reason I use it in the sprayer.
 
Thanks, I’ll keep the WWF in mind and maybe even try it next time out. I use WWF in my homemade barrel blaster which is basically a bug sprayer with a long #4 stainless tube and 5 way nozzle on the tip. Good thing about the WWF is it doesn’t freeze and is the main reason I use it in the sprayer.
I’ve used WWF when I started this sport... I may give it a try again. As of now I use simple green... and when I run out of that I use dawn dish soap..I’d like to make a barrel blaster, could you post the plans and materials?
 
1.5 gallonish bug sprayer. 45” #4 stainless steel 1/4 hard aircraft tubing. Fab and solder a sleeve on one end the same size as the plastic wand to fit compression sleeve. Fab a little brass nozzle to solder on the other end with about #60 size holes around the edge and one in the center.
 
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