Pyrodex

I have two black power revolver, one is a 1858 the other is a 1851 Navy Dlx Engraved .44 7 1/2" UI. Is it ok to shoot Hogdon Pyrodex P in them. I live in Zebulon and do not know where to get real black power.

Thanks for any advice

I've used Pyrodex p in all my bp guns for around 20 years. Works just fine. Just measure same by volume. As usual clean immediately.

bang said:

I've used Pyrodex p in all my bp guns for around 20 years. Works just fine. Just measure same by volume. As usual clean immediately.

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thank you

...and I've been using Pyrodex in MY Ruger Old Army since March 3rd, 1986. Works just fine etc.

monkr said:

thank you

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Just a suggestion and it's my preference. Stay at low end on open top revolvers. Keeps the stress down on the base pin and frame. I have seen some of these pistols have wedge and base pin issues from shooting high end loads. 18 grains should be sufficient 20 max for a 44cal.. Some won't agree but that's my opinion.

bang said:

Just a suggestion and it's my preference. Stay at low end on open top revolvers. Keeps the stress down on the base pin and frame. I have seen some of these pistols have wedge and base pin issues from shooting high end loads. 18 grains should be sufficient 20 max for a 44cal.. Some won't agree but that's my opinion.

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thanks will do that

I see nothing wrong with Pyrodex in ypur revolvers. That was probably sound advice to keep the loads on the low side. Just remember to give them a good cleaning. The stuff works but it is corrosive.

I use pyrodex P. My pietta 58 remington NMA seems to love it, best load I found sofar is 35grains, shoots to point of aim.

bang said:

Just a suggestion and it's my preference. Stay at low end on open top revolvers. Keeps the stress down on the base pin and frame. I have seen some of these pistols have wedge and base pin issues from shooting high end loads. 18 grains should be sufficient 20 max for a 44cal.. Some won't agree but that's my opinion.

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I use 2 steel framed Uberti open tops, and shoot full-powered loads most of the time. After at least 1,000 shots thru each one, and probably more, they have not loosened up at all, as far as I can tell.
If they ever do, they can be repaired rather easily, by me or someone else.
If they can't, I will buy another one or two, and salvage the parts ( cylinder, screws, grips, internals, etc. ) from the stretched ones for spares.
The guns don't cost that much.
I don't expect my chainsaw, car, or lawnmower to last forever, either.

smoothshooter said:

I use 2 steel framed Uberti open tops, and shoot full-powered loads most of the time. After at least 1,000 shots thru each one, and probably more, they have not loosened up at all, as far as I can tell.
If they ever do, they can be repaired rather easily, by me or someone else.
If they can't, I will buy another one or two, and salvage the parts ( cylinder, screws, grips, internals, etc. ) from the stretched ones for spares.
The guns don't cost that much.
I don't expect my chainsaw, car, or lawnmower to last forever, either.

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"Just a suggestion and it's my preference". OK?

Nothing wrong with using Pyrodex in a C&B revolver. I have done so many times. I happen to use black powder but I get it in bulk so it's cheaper than Pyrodex. (Not everyone is so lucky.) As to the load, I start low, 18 to 20 grs, and increase the charge until I get the best accuracy. I've found Colt 1851, 1860, and Remington 1858 revolvers generally prefer a mid-level charge, about 25 grs. of 3F or Pyrodex in a 44 caliber gun. My Ruger Old Army does best with 30 to 35 grs. of 3F for some reason.

Jeff

thanks everyone for your help

FerricOxide said:

I use pyrodex P. My pietta 58 remington NMA seems to love it, best load I found sofar is 35grains, shoots to point of aim.

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Yep, I try to get as close to 40 grains of 3Fg or Pyrodex P. My 1860 Pieta Army likes heavier loads to shoot at POA to POI.

WRustyLane said:

Yep, I try to get as close to 40 grains of 3Fg or Pyrodex P. My 1860 Pieta Army likes heavier loads to shoot at POA to POI.

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Yup, with my home cast 200 grain conicals, I cram 40gr in there under a lubed boolit, might be able to fit another grain or 2 even. Groups as well as my modern pistols and really puts on a smoke show. Round ball's are 35 max as they seem to lose accuracy at higher velocity. 30gr with a .454 round ball is the most accurate RB load I've found with more shooting time with the gun.