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i saw that mbs offers different kit rifles and i was wondering if anyone has any experience with it. I want to build a small caliber “squirrel rifle” and looked at that kit as an option. I have bought other products from them and have had good experiences, so i figure the kit is probably good too.
 
Hi Flycaster1977,
MBS is a very good company and Ryan, the owner, is a pleasure to deal with. He is also a very skilled maker himself. Their kits are good but not really much different from Track of the Wolf, Chambers, etc. Ryan does offer some unique and excellent pistol kits. Having said that, however, if you are right handed and want a small caliber squirrel rifle, the hands down best option (for the money as well) is Jim Kibler's southern mountain rifle kit. It is a league above all the others in quality and with minimal skill you can assemble and finish it in a couple weeks. At the end, you will have as fine quality a gun as you can buy, one that is historically correct in every detail, and shoots very well.

dave
 
I have not looked into one oftheir kits, but I have bought many parts from MBS. They are a great outfit. I'm in Pa, and when I order something from them I get in usually in like 2 days, and theyre in Idaho IIRC.
 
I saw 2 or 3 Kiblers at the Knoxville show this weekend that were dolled up to look really different than the stock rifle. Lots of possibilities to modify the look.
 
The only advantage I see in buying a preassembled kit is, you will have all the parts needed to build a firearm in one box. I did that on my first two builds, but on my Verner inspired squirrel rifle, I decided to buy the parts piecemeal as I needed/could afford them. PLus any parts I could make myself such as the side plate and or toe plate, so only need to buy sheet brass for those, which can be used to make many parts from. That and using spares from previous builds that weren't originally needed like extra screws, pin material bought, extra vent hole liner. It all helps in the long run and saves money. I've got probably $650 invested in total on the gun I'm building now. Many kits cost much more than that, and trust me, you're paying to have someone else put all those parts together in a box for you.
 
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The only advantage I see in buying a preassembled kit is, you will have all the parts needed to build a firearm in one box. I did that on my first two builds, but on my Verner inspired squirrel rifle, I decided to buy the parts piecemeal as I needed/could afford them. PLus any parts I could make myself such as the side plate and or toe plate, so only need to buy sheet brass for those, which can be used to make many parts from. That and using spares from previous builds that weren't originally needed like extra screws, pin material bought, extra vent hole liner. It all helps in the long run and saves money. I've got probably $650 invested in total on the gun I'm building now. Many kits cost much more than that, and trust me, you're paying to have someone else put all those parts together in a box for you.
I guess that means you carved your own stock out of a blank.
 
The only advantage I see in buying a preassembled kit is, you will have all the parts needed to build a firearm in one box. I did that on my first two builds, but on my Verner inspired squirrel rifle, I decided to buy the parts piecemeal as I needed/could afford them. PLus any parts I could make myself such as the side plate and or toe plate, so only need to buy sheet brass for those, which can be used to make many parts from. That and using spares from previous builds that weren't originally needed like extra screws, pin material bought, extra vent hole liner. It all helps in the long run and saves money. I've got probably $650 invested in total on the gun I'm building now. Many kits cost much more than that, and trust me, you're paying to have someone else put all those parts together in a box for you.
I had considered going this route, but i figured my first build should be something simpler. Eventually i would like to do a total build, but for now i couldnt beat the kibler kit for price and quality.
 
I guess that means you carved your own stock out of a blank.

No it doesn't mean that at all, what does that have to do with the situation? I bought a precarved stock simply because I don't have the skill to do that myself, however I bought the stock I wanted then bouight the other parts I needed instead of having someone assemble all the parts into a kit then charge me for that labor.
 
All of the longrifles I've built were made using pre-carved stocks.

Most of them were supplied by Pecatonica River without the lock mortise cut because I wanted to use a lock that was different from the one that they supply with their standard kits.

Also, many of them ended up looking quite a bit different than the pre-carved stock that I bought from them.
That's because I was building guns from existing photos of original guns so all the pre-carved stock had to do was to supply me with enough wood to make the stock I wanted. In other words, the pre-carved stock was just a "blank" with a barrel channel and ramrod hole cut into it.
 
All of mine were built from planks. I also made most brass parts by hand. The only parts bought were cast butt plates and trigger guards. A good barrel and lock was bought. I could build a barrel but don't know where to get the steel. I know how to make a rifling machine but it is not worth it or to make a forge for anything. There is a time to quit.
Pre cut is OK if you buy a kit or you still need to cut and fit. There are no "drop ins" worth the money.
 
no offence,,, just thought because you only paid $650 ,which was a great price that it wasn't a precarved stock..sorry if I offended you...
 
You know, There are a number of real builders here.
Some will admit to using pre carves most of the time.
 
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