Jukar .45

looking to see if a Jukar in .45 cal worth buying.Do not have any knowledge of this manufacturer except they made barrels for CVA years ago.The riffle looks to be in good condition barrel,stock look good,lock seems ok.they are asking $100.

They made the best and most accurate barrels ever to be put on a CVA rifle.

If the bore's good, and it has the Maislin lock, it's a decent deal.

Carbon 6 said:

They made the best and most accurate barrels ever to be put on a CVA rifle.

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I think the Douglas barrels on the CVA were more accurate.

It would be worth $100 just for the parts. They are pretty good shooters.

Thank you for the replies,gun looks like it was bought and left in the closet I’m going for it $100 no biggie for a new project.

The worst thing about the Jukar made guns was the locks they used.

Most, if not all of the locks on these guns have a unsupported tumbler in them. That is, the only thing that keeps the tumbler lined up is the hole thru the lockplate where the shaft of the tumbler fits.
These lockplates were left soft and as a conciquence, the hole would wear oversize and out of round. When this happens, the heavy pressure from the mainspring tends to tip the tumbler a bit. This can cause the nose of the sear that releases the tumbler to get out of alignment with full cock notch in the tumbler. either breaking it or causing the lock to jump out of the full cock position.

Later locks sold in the guns CVA imported had a "bridle" which provides support to the outer end of the tumbler.
Almost all of the sidelock guns made now use a bridled tumbler because it is so much better.

The other thing about all of the low cost guns made in Spain is they use Poplar for the stock wood.
While this wood is very strong and it makes a fair gunstock, it will not stain easily if an oil based stain like Minwax is used on it.
If you buy the gun and decide to refinish the stock be sure to use a water or alcohol based stain like Birchwood Casey makes. I really like the BC Walnut stain.

Getting back to the initial question, $100 is a pretty good price if the barrels bore is in good condition.
If the barrel bore is badly rusted the gun would make a very expensive fence post.

I have had one of these since I was 16 and it has killed many a deer and a few turkeys. Very accurate rifle. I have not experienced any issues with lock, guess I’ve been lucky as there is no bridle as Zonie described.

Pat.

Well it appears there is a problem with the lock and trigger I’m not sure what is wrong with it the guy at the gun store says they cant get it to work what ever that is supposed to mean.So i think at worst i will have to buy a new lock and trigger assembly I figure it as an investment in my education.This is the same place i got my T/C Hawkin flinter at and they said it was a junker after getting it home and fully disassembleing it and giving it a good cleaning and oiling the lock it turned out to be a beautiful gun.would post picture but gave up cant get from Flickr to upload.

Based on the fact that the gun shop is aware of the problem with the lock and trigger, I would offer no more than $50.

Ok will do,they are a shady group they are always playing stupid and will screw you over any chance they get.This is the Hawkin I cleaned up turned out to be a nice shooter.

i had one in flint and it sparked without a flaw for 30+ yrs. you can't even get a coffee and doughnut for a $100.00 these days. what are you waiting for? go for it!

Thunder14
It is very unlikely the double set triggers (if it has them) actually have anything wrong with them that a little adjustment couldn't cure. If the gun has a single trigger, there is nothing that can go wrong with it.

Before you start ordering any replacement lock, you will need to find out exactly what is wrong with it.

It could be the wear issue I mentioned or it could be something as simple as the screw that holds the sear in place is too tight and it is preventing the sear from moving.
A place called Deer Creek has a lot of parts for the rifles CVA imported and most of those guns are exactly like your Jukar.

Lets see where this goes before you buy anything to fix the gun.

About any rifle is worth $100. But still try for less.

I've had one since I was 14 that dad bought for me and I'm 60 now. It's very accurate with the right load and with younger eyes I was able to make some outstanding shots with it. I would offer less and come up if needed. I browned mine many years ago and it's a decent looking rifle. I don't think that you can go wrong since parts are available. Just my 2 cents.

Jukar made about half of CVA guns from 1971 until 1974 and then all CVA guns from about 1974 to 1978. CVA had a few Jukar guns in the line up until 1982. The very early Jukar pistol barrels barely had scratches for rifling. However, the later two piece stock Kentucky rifles had very good rifling and were very good round ball shooters, The sights were OK for fine shooting, but the locks were bargain basement. The early guns with the bolster breech plug had terrible locks. When Jukar went to the drum and nipple, the locks improved to just above serviceable. For the cheaper guns, Ardesa, which made most CVA sidelock guns after 1979, used locks that were identical.

Ya I’m going for it $100 not going to break me and i can still get parts

Thunder14 said:

Ya I’m going for it $100 not going to break me and i can still get parts

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Good move,, those olde jukar barrels are tack drivers,
Yeah the lock, trigger and split stock are issues (but there are fixes to all that, that are as old as those guns are).
If you want some help away from all the nay sayers,, get a hold of me.
Those guns can shoot better then most folks here that can pull a trigger.

necchi said:

Good move,, those olde jukar barrels are tack drivers,
Yeah the lock, trigger and split stock are issues (but there are fixes to all that, that are as old as those guns are).
If you want some help away from all the nay sayers,, get a hold of me.
Those guns can shoot better then most folks here that can pull a trigger.

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Thanks for the offer.I spent a lot of time in Minn.back in 80’s 90’s and early 2000,s it was a great state back then.

Patrick Thomas said:

I have had one of these since I was 16 and it has killed many a deer and a few turkeys. Very accurate rifle. I have not experienced any issues with lock, guess I’ve been lucky as there is no bridle as Zonie described.

Pat.

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I have recently purchased one of these Jukar rifles in .45 cal. and was wondering where to start with the loads. I will be shooting a .440 ball with patch. If you could advise me where to start it would be greatly appreciated. I will be using Pyrodex powder.