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Rice Barrels Match grade 1/48 roundball barrel 1"x 34" x .40 caliber, gun weight 11 lbs.
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You might consider buying a sewer pipe barrel , like a 1" across the flats in a .40 cal and having it "freshened" ...

Just a thought.
 
WKD said:
Rice Barrels Match grade 1/48 roundball barrel 1"x 34" x .40 caliber, gun weight 11 lbs.View attachment 2259
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WKD, if ya don't mind me asking, how did you establish the location of the rear sight and the required height of the front sight? I have been acquiring parts to build a rifle such as yours, curious to know how you planned it out.
 
The rear sight is centered with the tang and the front sight is measured from center of bore to center of sight, rear sight height is taken from lowest position of the eyecup diopter hole to center of front sight
 
appreciate the information, I bought an old schuetzen style diopter sight a few years ago, it is one Dixie Gun works use to sell. Been hankering to use it in a build ever since. I will get it built. Problem is no one seems interested in shooting them except a few of us weird vorderladers who remain lost in time.
 
I am alone in my obsession, Im gathering parts for another I want to learn to shoot a paper patched bullet gun, lost in time is right.
 
I have a a couple of Nelson Lewis Rifles that could be on the market if one of you wanted something like that. He used gain twist on all his rifles and they were known for accuracy. I have one high condition with false muzzle and lolly pop sight and another that would require a little clean up. Both rifles have good bores.
 
You start by saying the best money can buy, and then start on the limitations and qualifications. Heavy bench, light bench, bullet offhand, etc. There really are different rifling configurations that fit the different disciplines better than others. Saying 45 caliber and 1:18 is still in a bit of a mystery. Will the gun be equipped with a false muzzle? a mechanical bullet press? Will it be for paper patched, cross patched or greased bullets. Are you going to be persnickety enough to use a nose pour mold. I am a fan of Harry Pope's style of rifling. He must have known something about it, since his guns are still some of the most accurate a century later. Will this be a Schuetzen rifle with palm rest, hooked butt plate etc? You leave too many variables out. Some folks say, well I got a numrich barrel with square rifling and it is accurate. Accuracy is all relative. Accurate for what, Shooting better than the offhand shooter can, not hard to do. Shooting better than a heavy bench shooter can do, that it a tall order. In the span of a thousand shots down range in ideal conditions, is the group likely to be a few millimeters smaller? It comes down to that. Competition shooters study and pay and practice to make the best advantage of any little edge. When scores of 50 are found among 5 shooters at Nationals, it is the x's that count next and beyond that, the smallest group. If one barrel is a tenth of a percent more accurate than another, it can and will make the difference in competitions. It matters whether you want minute of deer, minute of angle, or aspire to the elusive second of angle. Whether a gun shoots a 2 inch group at 100 yds is accurate to some, whether it shoots a half inch group at 100 yds is just getting there for others. T

Then when you get the absolute best barrel for your shooting discipline, spend equally as much effort researching and properly installing the best sights for the discipline. Make sure the stock actually fits YOU for the discipline you want. a bench shooter fit is vastly different from an offhand fit.
 
zimmerstutzen said:
You start by saying the best money can buy, and then start on the limitations and qualifications. Heavy bench, light bench, bullet offhand, etc. There really are different rifling configurations that fit the different disciplines better than others. Saying 45 caliber and 1:18 is still in a bit of a mystery. Will the gun be equipped with a false muzzle? a mechanical bullet press? Will it be for paper patched, cross patched or greased bullets. Are you going to be persnickety enough to use a nose pour mold. I am a fan of Harry Pope's style of rifling. He must have known something about it, since his guns are still some of the most accurate a century later. Will this be a Schuetzen rifle with palm rest, hooked butt plate etc? You leave too many variables out. Some folks say, well I got a numrich barrel with square rifling and it is accurate. Accuracy is all relative. Accurate for what, Shooting better than the offhand shooter can, not hard to do. Shooting better than a heavy bench shooter can do, that it a tall order. In the span of a thousand shots down range in ideal conditions, is the group likely to be a few millimeters smaller? It comes down to that. Competition shooters study and pay and practice to make the best advantage of any little edge. When scores of 50 are found among 5 shooters at Nationals, it is the x's that count next and beyond that, the smallest group. If one barrel is a tenth of a percent more accurate than another, it can and will make the difference in competitions. It matters whether you want minute of deer, minute of angle, or aspire to the elusive second of angle. Whether a gun shoots a 2 inch group at 100 yds is accurate to some, whether it shoots a half inch group at 100 yds is just getting there for others. T

Then when you get the absolute best barrel for your shooting discipline, spend equally as much effort researching and properly installing the best sights for the discipline. Make sure the stock actually fits YOU for the discipline you want. a bench shooter fit is vastly different from an offhand fit.
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Also keep in mind Mike Bell won the Nationals at Friendship one year shooting a re-barreled T.C. The shooter is just as important, or more so, than the equipment.
 
zimmerstutzen said:
If I heard correctly he used an H&H barrel. Wish I could get another H&H Had one on my Cabelas hawken.
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That's right, Mike worked for Hoppy Hopkins and Tom Hobbs at H&H back in the day. I have a couple of their barrels, one on on an iron mounted NC Flintlock, and the other on a MD style flintlock rifle that's still under construction. Both are .40 cal. Bobby Hoyt has been using a deep hole drill that Tom designed and built years ago. Sure miss those guys.
 
Went to the range today with the raw gun and it shot pretty darn good. This is the gun with the GM barrel. four of the shots made a 1 1/2" group with the fifth one making a 2" group. The target was a little fuzzy today or I believe the group would have been better. I purchased a Shaver Soule medium range sight. Now to tear it down and finish the stock. I plan on brass wire inlaying the stock as well as carving behind the cheek piece and engraving the metal.
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Heading to the range tomorrow to do initial sighting and load development. In the meanwhile I am waiting on delivery of a never shot (but used) slow twist GM barrel with a false muzzle. I also have a new Bob Roller Schuetzen lock and triggers coming I guess I'll have to start shopping for sights
 

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