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This post is mostly for fun but might be informative to some who are new to the flint lock game. The flints shown are as what we would call "gunflints". Not all pictured are made of flint rock.
#1 Is one of those not a rock. This device, a sorta zippo style sparker, was made about 2003 by a gent named Tom Kyper. He stated it was an updated version of the wheel lock. He tried to patent it but, apparently, could not patent a 400 year old idea. He sent this to me asking that I write a product review for him. I didn't get right to it because to use a hunk of leather had to be glued to the frizzen face. Before I tried it out he contacted me and said he could not get approval from various state game and fish commissions for use as a flintlock. I believe he was also told by NMLRA it did not fit their rules for a flintlock rifle. I don't believe he ever got it to market. I kept it as a curiosity.
#2 Is not a flint rock either. It is a manufactured ceramic gunflint. I have never used but suspect it would work just fine.
#3 Is a rock but not flint. It is a sawn gunflint from novoculite. Novoculite is stone found in a part of Arkansas and is most commonly seen as sharpening stones. I have tried these but have not had good luck with them as sparkers. They can be purchased but are scary expensive.
#4 Is knapped flint rock but is pure white. This flint is found in various locations. Much is found in east-central Missouri and our own Rich Pierce used to make and sell flints from this rock. Those who have used these flints speak well of their sparking qualities.
#5 These are rock but some will debate they are not 'flint rocks'. These are sawn flints of several types of rock. e.g. agate, jasper, jaspis and others. These came from Gunter Stifter in Germany. Gunter is gone but his business carries on and this type of flint is still available but prices are prohibitive. I used them for many years and
flints_2.jpg
could argue they may be economical to use because of extreme longevity in a good lock. I still have about a dozen unused and may use them in my new rifle currently being built by Dave Person.
#6 Yellow knapped French flint rock. Very popular with some. I don't have enough experience using them to comment.
#7 Black English knapped flint rock. By far the most recognizable and widely used flint. Can't go wrong with these.
#8 Another knapped black English flint, just showing because of large size. This one fits the Brown Bess.
 
Thanks, interesting.
I admire crafts men who make these gun flints, I am lousy at it!
It doesn't help there not being any flint around, well there is but only small pieces and very spread out!
It has no grain and I just have to smash it in the hope something useful comes from it!
I did once find a small shard lying on the plough furrow, fitted it and proceeded to put something on the table with it which was cool!

B
 
I think I have about a dozen different varieties. Naturally the French Amber but also the similar Spanish which is pockmarked. Then there is the black and grey English. Then mentioned white from Mr. Pierce. Out of Nepal I found an unusual solid dull grey. On my last "batch" of flints I also got a couple the color of pastel spotted strawberry and a flat mustard color that are from a flint in Australia. There was yet another I had that was comparable to a French Amber in color but much thinner and harder, no idea what it was. Ok so that's 9 different flints that aren't manufactured or cut.
 
On my last "batch" of flints I also got a couple the color of pastel spotted strawberry and a flat mustard color that are from a flint in Australia.

Hmm, interesting; Seeing as how the only naturally occurring flint in Australia is black.
I think that flat mustard colour stuff is a chert, chalcedony or agate.
Even though flint is a type of chert the only true flint here is black & in one reef off shore at Port Macdonnell S.A. the most southern point of the state.
It is washed up as rocks on the beach by the wild Southern Ocean storms.
O.
 
The person I got it from said something about Austalia, it's entirely possible it's from somewhere else. I am Not a rock expert but can see a difference in a fair number of gun "flints" that have passed thru my hands.
 
Post another picture showing number 1 I remember reading about that seems like I ordered one

OK, here is another angle. Looking at this thing, it is obvious he made them by hand from scrap plastic and leather with some glue. I seriously doubt he could have manufactured them in any quantity if they sold well.
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I've mostly used English flints for the last 30 years but have tried the T/C cut flints. Didn't really like the T/C flints. I received two large siler deluxe locks last winter and they had flints that were almost white. really hard and sharp. They lasted a long time. I recently ordered and received 12 french flints . They look good and will be fun to try. The ones I got with the siler locks really did throw some good sparks. I live close to the TN. River and have been walking a few creeks looking for flint to play with. I doubt if I'll be able to nap any usable flints but I think it will be fun trying.
 
I've mostly used English flints for the last 30 years but have tried the T/C cut flints. Didn't really like the T/C flints. I received two large siler deluxe locks last winter and they had flints that were almost white. really hard and sharp. They lasted a long time. I recently ordered and received 12 french flints . They look good and will be fun to try. The ones I got with the siler locks really did throw some good sparks. I live close to the TN. River and have been walking a few creeks looking for flint to play with. I doubt if I'll be able to nap any usable flints but I think it will be fun trying.

Let us know how you like the French gun flints. Been thinking about getting some but most of what I read say the English are better.
 
Very cool! It’s a shame Richard Pierce no longer offers his white mizzoorah flints. I’ve grown up in the St. Louis region and visit from time to time. Might try and find some next time I’m there just to try my hand at it.
 
I will. It may be a while I’m looking at back surgery in the next few weeks. as soon as I can I will be shooting again. I just love this stuff
 
Let us know how you like the French gun flints. Been thinking about getting some but most of what I read say the English are better.
I got hooked into the French honey flints a year and a half ago. It depends on the guns lock and the guns owner. For me, I buy them by the dozen and wont go back to black.
Your mileage may vary.
 
I was told that cut agate was hard on your frizzen , don't know how true that is.
What your outlook on them?
 
This post is mostly for fun but might be informative to some who are new to the flint lock game. The flints shown are as what we would call "gunflints". Not all pictured are made of flint rock.
#1 Is one of those not a rock. This device, a sorta zippo style sparker, was made about 2003 by a gent named Tom Kyper. He stated it was an updated version of the wheel lock. He tried to patent it but, apparently, could not patent a 400 year old idea. He sent this to me asking that I write a product review for him. I didn't get right to it because to use a hunk of leather had to be glued to the frizzen face. Before I tried it out he contacted me and said he could not get approval from various state game and fish commissions for use as a flintlock. I believe he was also told by NMLRA it did not fit their rules for a flintlock rifle. I don't believe he ever got it to market. I kept it as a curiosity.
#2 Is not a flint rock either. It is a manufactured ceramic gunflint. I have never used but suspect it would work just fine.
#3 Is a rock but not flint. It is a sawn gunflint from novoculite. Novoculite is stone found in a part of Arkansas and is most commonly seen as sharpening stones. I have tried these but have not had good luck with them as sparkers. They can be purchased but are scary expensive.
#4 Is knapped flint rock but is pure white. This flint is found in various locations. Much is found in east-central Missouri and our own Rich Pierce used to make and sell flints from this rock. Those who have used these flints speak well of their sparking qualities.
#5 These are rock but some will debate they are not 'flint rocks'. These are sawn flints of several types of rock. e.g. agate, jasper, jaspis and others. These came from Gunter Stifter in Germany. Gunter is gone but his business carries on and this type of flint is still available but prices are prohibitive. I used them for many years and
flints_2.jpg
could argue they may be economical to use because of extreme longevity in a good lock. I still have about a dozen unused and may use them in my new rifle currently being built by Dave Person.
#6 Yellow knapped French flint rock. Very popular with some. I don't have enough experience using them to comment.
#7 Black English knapped flint rock. By far the most recognizable and widely used flint. Can't go wrong with these.
#8 Another knapped black English flint, just showing because of large size. This one fits the Brown Bess.
This post is mostly for fun but might be informative to some who are new to the flint lock game. The flints shown are as what we would call "gunflints". Not all pictured are made of flint rock.
#1 Is one of those not a rock. This device, a sorta zippo style sparker, was made about 2003 by a gent named Tom Kyper. He stated it was an updated version of the wheel lock. He tried to patent it but, apparently, could not patent a 400 year old idea. He sent this to me asking that I write a product review for him. I didn't get right to it because to use a hunk of leather had to be glued to the frizzen face. Before I tried it out he contacted me and said he could not get approval from various state game and fish commissions for use as a flintlock. I believe he was also told by NMLRA it did not fit their rules for a flintlock rifle. I don't believe he ever got it to market. I kept it as a curiosity.
#2 Is not a flint rock either. It is a manufactured ceramic gunflint. I have never used but suspect it would work just fine.
#3 Is a rock but not flint. It is a sawn gunflint from novoculite. Novoculite is stone found in a part of Arkansas and is most commonly seen as sharpening stones. I have tried these but have not had good luck with them as sparkers. They can be purchased but are scary expensive.
#4 Is knapped flint rock but is pure white. This flint is found in various locations. Much is found in east-central Missouri and our own Rich Pierce used to make and sell flints from this rock. Those who have used these flints speak well of their sparking qualities.
#5 These are rock but some will debate they are not 'flint rocks'. These are sawn flints of several types of rock. e.g. agate, jasper, jaspis and others. These came from Gunter Stifter in Germany. Gunter is gone but his business carries on and this type of flint is still available but prices are prohibitive. I used them for many years and
flints_2.jpg
could argue they may be economical to use because of extreme longevity in a good lock. I still have about a dozen unused and may use them in my new rifle currently being built by Dave Person.
#6 Yellow knapped French flint rock. Very popular with some. I don't have enough experience using them to comment.
#7 Black English knapped flint rock. By far the most recognizable and widely used flint. Can't go wrong with these.
#8 Another knapped black English flint, just showing because of large size. This one fits the Brown Bess.

I have had decent luck making crude gun flints ( my efforts are more accurately called spalls ) with the white chert found here in the SW Missouri Ozarks.
They don’t look like much, but they spark very well, and I can bust out 3 or 4 useable ones in about 15 minutes.
I’ll admit I make a lot more sharp gravel than I do gun flints.😕
 
I have had decent luck making crude gun flints ( my efforts are more accurately called spalls ) with the white chert found here in the SW Missouri Ozarks.
They don’t look like much, but they spark very well, and I can bust out 3 or 4 useable ones in about 15 minutes.
I’ll admit I make a lot more sharp gravel than I do gun flints.😕
Sounds like my efforts. Here in Aus true flint just doesn't happen and buying imports is expensive. I knap, if you can call what I do knapping, from chert. It varies in colour and texture from a course grey to a smooth black and sparks well and tapping the edge with a knife will renew it every time.
 
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