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CO Elkeater said:
Thanks Brown Bear,

I don't have a smooth bore so, as you point out, this 58 can be the next best or as good for small game. And I get to know the 58 better. Do you have grouse up your way?

I have taken grouse and snowshoe hare using a prb with light loads in both .58 (1:48) and .54(1:60) cal guns. Much more versatile than using a small bore for small game and as Brown Bear and I have often mentioned less damage too. :thumbsup:
 
BrownBear said:
Meanwhile the 1:48 twists excel right up through the powder charge scale. They bash bunny heads with aplomb down at 30-40 grains of 3f, while they really flatten trajectories up over 100 grains.

I agree on the deep rifling, but if I was to put together another 58 caliber (and my wife didn't catch me at it!), I'm pretty sure I'd go with another 1:48 with deep rifling.

There's a very good reason that so many of the original rifles we admire were made with 1:48 twists, I think....

And, what brand would you buy in .58 caliber with a 1:48 twist with deep rifling that would shoot prb?

Thanks, Brown Bear :)
 
Thank you, Brown Bear & R.J. Morrison. Much appreciated.

Your recommendation, Brown Bear, of The Gun Works, I will keep in mind. Thank you.

Seems the Lyman GPR is a bit rare these days. I see one for sale in the "for sale" part. Looks nice.

TC Hawkens are not rare to find. Nifty idea about reboring. Thank you R. J.
 
Alaskan Glen said:
Seems the Lyman GPR is a bit rare these days.

Keep in mind that the GPR has a 15/16" barrel, and no one will build a 15/16" barrel in 58 cal or rebore one to that these days. Have to stick to 1" or larger.

A Bobby Hoyt rebore is a great suggestion, too. Probably save you quite a bit of money if you picked up a grungy 1" barrel at the right price.
 
And there's all kindsa stuff to think about...
New big bore tube using your breech plug and hardware.
The external attachments soldered on to avoid drilling and tapping a thin barrel wall.
Octagonal to round to give a better weight for your longer sight radius.
:yakyak:
 
Seems the GPR in .54 caliber percussion lock and in RH, brand new, is hard to find right now.

Any suggestions on that puzzle for the present?
 
Just keep watching the used sites. Might get on the notification list at the vendors of your choice so you'll hear about it when they get some.
 
CO Elkeater said:
I talked to a kind lady at the Gun Works. The Oregon barrel man is recovering from a stroke. Getting around on a walker. Not making barrels yet.

Thanks CO. I hope he recovers soon and well.

If I go that route I'll see if TGW has any barrels in stock. Gosh! Must be run on muzzle loaders (traditional) lately.
 
BrownBear said:
I'd have the fine folks at The Gun Works put it together for me. They use Oregon Barrels. I have several rifles with them, and they're great.

Ho K, so now I'm thinking to get the .54 cal Oregon (TGW) barrel same OD as my TC .50 and I want this rifle/barrel to shoot prb and have deeper rifling than my TC barrel. I'm thinking of one of the Oregon drop-ins. Need to talk to them again....

I would like a more accurate PRB shooter than my TC .50 cal. I'm thinking with deeper rifling and less ball hammering, Bear you are suggesting go with the 1:48" twist? As opposed to the 1:66" twist for the most accurate configuration prb twist barrel??

Why or why not?

Too much wedding, working and moving for me this summer and not enough shooting and fishing so far. :)

Also, what is a "good deal" to have Mr. Hoyt rebore a barrel from .50 to .54 with the most accurate prb twist? Do you folks have a http: for him?

Thank you!
 
My hunting buddy had this same operation done by Mr. Hoyt, 50 cal rebored to a 54 i in 66 rot. His rifle shoots great, I tell him to shoot less powder like start at 60gr, try 3 F etc. He insists on 80 so he don't need to make a new powder measurer. Even in an overloaded gun it shoots well out to 100 yards. He reports it is more accurate than his other 2 tc hawkers with 1 turn in 48" twist.
 
OK I called the mysterious phone number listed on the first page. This not a business. This is the phone # of a man who had several Green Mountain rifles barrels for TC Hawkens NIB that were his personal property. He lives in New York state. He has one NIB barrel left A 54 caliber for the TC Hawken. I told him I was looking for a slow twist 50 caliber for a Renegade rifle. He suggested Rice barrel company.
 

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