CONNECTICUT VALLEY ARMS (CVA)

Stlnifr said:

I had narrowed it down two rifles of different calibers I preferred 45 because that is what my TC Hawkens is. That way I would only need one diameter round ball.

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Hate to be a spoil-sport but not all .45's take the same ball size..."therein lies the rub!" :wink: :haha: Be sure to check and double-check! :thumbsup:

It's over no longer in the market for another muzzleloader.

Why?

I need to do more research. So I am out of the market for now.

:idunno: Well it for good conversation anyway!

Stlnifr said:

I need to do more research. So I am out of the market for now.

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OMG,,
Ok, research how much individual parts like lock, stock and barrel are worth,, individually. Throw in the trigger, wedge pins, ramrod and all of the other individual things that come with the purchase of a complete gun.
Then, you can use that info to determine the current "value" of a gun. "Good Bargain" gun's are those that cost less then what the individual parts would cost as a total and/or total cost is less then what individual parts can be sold for at a profit worthy of your personal invested time to advertise/sell/and ship.
That's what's happening today,, a lot.
So if you hum an haw about a newly listed gun for more than a few days,, someone else is going to grab it, break it into parts and sell it at a profit,, or just bald face re-list it for a profit sale on a different site.
(I had that happen with a member here)

Believe me, I understand your caution, I know what it's like to part with hard earned cash and take a chance.
Good luck with your "research".
John

I have a TC Hawkens that has been here since the late 70's I have never fired it. It has been well taken cared of it was oiled every time I cleaned my other rifles. I am not in a hurry to purchase another I thought another one with a full stock might look good beside the TC Hawkens. If I purchased another and fired it at the rate I fire the one I own now it would probably never be fired. Therefore I can wait and be choosy on what I would like to do. :idunno:

Your logic is difficult to understand. :shocked2:

We all have different reasons for what we do. I shoot all of my firearms. Some collect and never fire many of them. Others like me shoot them. I had a friend who purchased a commemorative unmentionable that was unfired and about thirty years old. I was at the range the day about two years ago when he put about half a dozen rounds through it. He laughed about how he just reduced the "unfired" value by several hundreds of dollars. I don't think he ever shot it again.

I don't get out to shoot near as much as I would like either. I hope to change that after I retire. We all have our dreams and when we stop dreaming, we stop living.

I bought a .50 cal Hawkin style rifle about 25 years ago. It has a hollow plastic stock and it's front heavy. The lock is flimsy, but it still shoots to this day.

Sounds like you're into wall hangers...I would humbly suggest that if that's so you choose something more appealing that commercial muzzleloaders! :wink: :haha:
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1.25" bore and 13 feet long! Now that hummer covers some wall space.

I bought a .50 cal Hawken style rifle about 25 years ago. It has a hollow plastic stock and it's front heavy. The lock is flimsy, but it still shoots to this day.

My suggestion is (unless you are collecting just to be doing so) go shoot your first gun first, and MAKE/TAKE the time to do it and do it more than once. You said you are 68 (life isn't getting any longer for you), not knowing why your are "that" busy, that you don't have the time to go and try something new. You mentioned you have had the TC since the 70's and you haven't taken/made the time to go and shoot it even once in all of those years. No offense but you might want to reevaluate. Until you can do that, you are just wasting your money. Then again it is your money.

As I said "No offense", but I work in a job where I see many lives being all to short. DANNY

I served in the fire service for 30 years I saw my share of shorten lives also. When I purchased the muzzle-loader it was just for display I had no intention of firing it when I bought it. After I am gone I think my granddaughter will be proud to have something grand pa owned. She is my hunting buddy and she is in my will to get all my hunting stuff.

Sounds to me like you need to teach her how to use it. That memory is what will add to her having it (along with the other ones), and maybe hunting with it with her. Memories make "things" that much more precious. Knowing Grandpa taught her when she looks at it or uses it. Lost my dad when I was 9, he died before he could teach me, I don't have those memories, but I have things. God Bless and Merry Christmas!! DANNY

Danny Ross said:

Sounds to me like you need to teach her how to use it,,
Memories make "things" that much more precious. Knowing Grandpa taught her when she looks at it or uses it,,

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My thought's exactly, but to each his own.

necchi said:

Danny Ross said:

Sounds to me like you need to teach her how to use it,,
Memories make "things" that much more precious. Knowing Grandpa taught her when she looks at it or uses it,,

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My thought's exactly, but to each his own.

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Ditto there. Getting Grandpa's gun with be great to her but getting Grandpa's gun that he taught her how to shoot will be outstanding and increase our ranks by 1. Passing things down from generation to generation. That's what it's all about and seems to be a rare thing these days. You are fortunate indeed to have someone to pass along these things.

Went on my shooting range and fired the Hawkens made about 10 shots it is extremely accurate at 40 yards was shooting at 1 1/2 inch edge of a two by four it shoots dead on at where you aim. I was shooting prb .440 and a .010 patch with unique case lube using FFFg Goex powder. I am satisfied with my results for a first time shooting it. I had it about 35 years new condition never fired and now it is a used gun.

:thumbsup: That is what they are for to be used. Glad to see you got the time to go and shoot it :hatsoff: . Sounds like a good time to me, especially right out of the starting gate getting that kind of grouping. DANNY