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Dave Person said:
Hi,
That may not solve the problem if it is the hot gasses from the barrel shooting out the touch hole.

dave
True.....I just couldn't resist what seemed to me to be the obvious. Back to our regular programming.
 
54ball said:
***Snipped out nested quotes***
I have found that a gun with flash guard is much more apt to blow particles on my face. They also foul the lock side much worse.

WHAT???

I have used a flash-guard on two different long rifles for the better part of 15 years and NEVER had any particles blow towards my face. I have been burned a number of times on the side of my face by standing within 3 to 5-feet of a rifle that didn't have a flash-guard, but never from using my own. No, not even once out of the thousands of times I've fired them. The flash-guard diverts the flash up and away, not over the top of the rifle and back towards your face.

And NO, having fired thousands of blank rounds through my rifles at reenactments, I can tell you it doesn't do anything to the side of the lock. It deposits fouling on the inside curve of the guard, which makes sense because that's where the flash hits it. And firing blanks generates a LOT more fouling than firing a live ball.

My guess would be you heard somebody say that it caused both of those problems so you decided against using one and are just repeating what they told you. Well they were wrong. That is nothing more than an old wive's tale or an urban legend. Nothing could be further from the truth. It doesn't spray flash back at you and it doesn't foul your lock.

Twisted_1in66 :thumbsup:
Dan
 
Thanks for everyone's help. I appreciate the input. Gonna start with a new touch hole liner. I'll consider a flash guard after that.
 
Who are you to tell what I have experienced?

So I come on a forum just so I can lie because I knew some unknown persons that did not like flashguards and now I'm repeating a made up story because I have a vendetta against flash guards?
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

I'm just sharing my experience. All the :thumbsup: :thumbsup: still does not make it right.

So because you have experienced no problem or drawback, anyone that has must be lying....Correct?

BTW The gun that peppered my face was a 1795 Springfield. Not bad but I felt it repeatedly. And yes the lock was dirtier on any flash guard gun I have fired.

For reenactment on the line it's required at some places and I recommend them. For casual shooting I do not. Off it comes when I'm home from an event.

The OP said nothing about reenacting.
 
Whoa, I was just looking different design or ways to add a guard. Just don't like the usual ones you see. Everyone's rifle is their own, want it to look that way. This isn't the muzzleloading community I'm used to. Thanks again.
 
Sorry to torque your jaws 54ball, but what you said was so counter to all my experiences over the last 15 years I had to step in. I certainly didn't say you were lying and I apologize if that is how you took it. I said it sounded like you may have "heard somebody say that it caused both of those problems so you decided against using one and are just repeating what they told you."

I shouldn't have said that but should have asked you to explain your experience instead. I was wrong to do that and I apologize.

Of course I have no clue as to what your experience was but because it was so 180° contrary to what I've done and seen with thousands of shots, I didn't want the OP to think that is how it "normally" was. I would be real curious to see what your flash-guard on your 1795 Springfield looks like and how it's set up to see why you are experiencing that blow-back problem. That is not a normal condition with flash-guards.

As far as reenacting goes and the reference to it, that was because firing blanks generates about 5-times as much fouling as firing live ball does. If the fouling is ever going to show up on a lock, it should be obvious there. It is extremely obvious on the inside face of the flash-guard after a battle reenactment.

Again my apologies if you feel I impinged upon your reputation. That was not my intent. Typing sucks, talking is much more clear. :v

Twisted_1in66 :thumbsup:
Dan
 
Thank you, Dan
You are a good big man.....It means a lot thanks....
My apologies for showing anger....something I should never do :redface:
 
+ 1 , burnt my leather sling up pretty good , seen flashes going down low enough to reach powder horns and boxes poorly fitted :hmm:
 
Been shooting flint for a few decades now & never fired one with a flash guard (truthfully, I didn't know what they were until just a few years ago).

A brand-new RO at my range sought to establish himself as being the ultimate know-it-all for all firearms old & new and approached me one afternoon while I was shooting a newly aquired 35 year-old Cabelas (Investarms) .54 cal. 'Sport' Hawken rifle (it has checkering on the stok, which makes it sporty, I'm guessing).

Anyway, RO-kid approached me and told me I couldn't shoot my rifle there anymore, since it was obvious I didn't have a flash-guard installed.

I told him I didn't need no stinking flash guard & he got kinda' pi$$y. He said I could burn someone standing next to me with hot gases.

I had to point out to him that I was firing a caplock & there is no burn hazard to bystanders.
He withdrew & afterward avoided me as much as possible, although I made it a point to greet him when I arrived & asked if he had any sound wisdom of the day to impart.
 
..., and pan cover were badly corroded because of the flash guard and poor maintenance.

I'd have to disagree slightly, Dave..., that's all poor maintenance. I often have to serve as an armorer of sorts, and we probably could have lots of laughs around a campfire with cups of coffee comparing horror stories of what we've seen reenactors do to their muskets, eh?
:haha:

LD
 
I'm reminded of a quotation which has been attributed to more than one person.

"It ain't folks ignorance that's such a problem, it's their being sure of things that just ain't so."
 
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