Rogers and Spencer

I just picked up a never been shot Euroarms Rogers and Spencer 44 caliber pistol. I don't know anything about it but it fits my hands a lot better than my 1858 Remingtons do.

Where is the best place to get information and parts. My next step is to slug the bore and try and figure out what size ball it will shoot.

I understand that Traditions ( https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/category/Black-Powder ) imported a Rogers & Spencer a few years back and they may have parts. They don't show a R&S in their current listings. The Winchester Sutler ( http://winchestersutler.com/Part.html ) shows these parts for sale and is the only one I know of who claims to have Euroarms R&S parts. The good news is that the R&S is a rugged gun and you probably won't need much in the line of parts.

Out of the box the Euroarms R&S had a reputation as one of the most accurate production revolvers available and may still be. I can't speak for the accuracy of the traditions version though. I bought one used from a friend and did quite well with it. I later turned it over to Tom Ball for one of his accuracy jobs won quite a number of medals with it. I would recommend a .454" ball and 20 to 22 grains of 3f with enough Cream of Wheat to bring the ball almost to the face of the cylinder if you are looking for a very accurate load. I suggest you buy an aftermarket set of nipples and not anything made by any of the Italian manufacturers. I prefer Treso brand Ampco alloy nipples and if I remember the R&S uses the same nipple as the Pietta Remington. You should be able to find quite a bit of info if you search the Handguns forum.

Thanks Hawkeye for the information. Looks like it will be an interesting project.

S&S Firearms also lists a few Euroarms Rogers and Spencer parts, trigger bolt and attendant spring among others. Enjoy your new revolver.

I also have a Euroarms R&S that I picked up at a guns show a couple of years ago. It is in rough condition internally with a badly rusted barrel. It shoots ok and as noted by Hawkeye prefers 454 balls. 451's are not a snug fit in mine. In spite of the horrible barrel due to being left uncleaned by a previous owner, it shoots pretty well. At least as good as my poor pistol shooting skills allow.

If I could find a decent barrel, I would have it re-barreled.

I had a R&S from Euroarms for years and have a high regard for them. I shot .454" ball, and even with the lousy front "sight", it would shoot just over an inch at 20 yards. That's accuracy! I eventually sold it as it was just to big and too much gun for me.

Euroarms was the manufacturer of the majority of them; they ceased production about five years ago. Mine shoots .454 RB.

Just as a matter of passing interest: I purchased an original R&S in 1965 for $125.00 that was in perfect condition (as most were found to be un-issued). Shot it many times over my early years. Even the original was very accurate. But it too needed .454 balls. The .451 was too loose. A guy with large hands would especially find the R&S comfortable to shoot. There's another gun I wish I had back

CaptainKirk: I notice you live in Waukegan. I bought the R&S at a high end gun shop called The Powder Horn - which was located in Willmette. The owner was Bob Mandell, who was also Antique Arms Editor for Guns Magazine back in those days.

Rick :hatsoff:

ricky said:

Just as a matter of passing interest: I purchased an original R&S in 1965 for $125.00 that was in perfect condition (as most were found to be un-issued). Shot it many times over my early years. Even the original was very accurate. But it too needed .454 balls. The .451 was too loose. A guy with large hands would especially find the R&S comfortable to shoot. There's another gun I wish I had back

CaptainKirk: I notice you live in Waukegan. I bought the R&S at a high end gun shop called The Powder Horn - which was located in Willmette. The owner was Bob Mandell, who was also Antique Arms Editor for Guns Magazine back in those days.

Rick :hatsoff:

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Even though $125.00 was a good chunk of money in 1965, that was a rare find, indeed. I've been "inside" three original Rogers and Spencers and the quality of the originals is noticeably better even over the Euroarms models.

Gus