L and R locks

Twisted_1in66 · Oct 12, 2014

I have an L&R Queen Anne lock on my early Lancaster rifle that tg built. It is super reliable and a fast lock. I never have any trouble with it.

I sent it back to L&R one time because I had removed the frizzen spring for cleaning and lost the spring. Called them up to see if I could get the part and they said they would mount it for me for just the price of the part. Also said that would give them a chance to inspect the lock for any problems. I got the lock back a little over a week after I sent it to them and they included a note that said, "nice lock!" So I am more than happy to recommend them to you - good locks and good folks to deal with.

Twisted_1in66 :thumbsup:

Dean2 · Oct 13, 2014

Being a lefty L&R locks are one of the few that makes a good selection. I have a very nice custom Hawken Flint made by Taylor Sapergia. It came with an installed L&R and a complete spare in the white L&R flint lock. I don't know if Taylor did any work to the locks before installing them but it is a beautiful shooting rifle, lock is fast, reliable and pretty waterproof.

Rifleman1776 · Oct 13, 2014

Dean2 said:
Being a lefty L&R locks are one of the few that makes a good selection. I have a very nice custom Hawken Flint made by Taylor Sapergia. It came with an installed L&R and a complete spare in the white L&R flint lock. I don't know if Taylor did any work to the locks before installing them but it is a beautiful shooting rifle, lock is fast, reliable and pretty waterproof.

A gunsmith, and new friend, I met recently showed me a double flinter shotgun he made with L&R Early English locks. It is made with recovered barrels from old shotguns with Damasus barrels. Beautiful shotgun.

Many Klatch · Oct 13, 2014

Russ Hamm was making locks before Siler came on the scene. I was told that he worked 3rd shift at a GM plant in Fort Wayne Indiana. Whatever GM happened to be pouring that day was what Russ Hamm used in his molds when no one was looking. I built a flint lock with a Russ Hamm lock and wasn't able to get it to spark no matter what I did.

Russ died over 30 years ago. That lock has been around for a long time.

I can't help you with the replacement lock, but I thought you might find this information interesting.

54mountain · Oct 15, 2014

I have L&R locks on several guns 2 right hand flinters one left handed flint pistol and 2 percussion guns, all are very fine locks. The Durs Egg being my favorite. If they made a replacement for a left hand flint GPR it would have one also. :wink:

Heelerau · Nov 12, 2014

Gentlemen,
finally got my L and R RPL drop in lock to replace the Russ Hamm lock. I had it sent to a chap in Minnesota who did an internal polish and lock tune up. I must say what a lovely job he did, and how well the lock sparks. Took some messing about to get it fitted, had to adjust the scear spring as the set trigger which has to be set to work would not trip the scear. I have flashed some priming charges, and goes off every time. I will now have to finish the outside of the lock at some point.* My thanks to Nessmuck for putting me onto Ron Gueldner for the lock tune up and many thanks to Bob Roller who gave me a nice set of inletting chisels, and to all who responded to my querie about these locks.

Cheers
Heelerau

Rifleman1776 · Nov 12, 2014

Hope it works well for you.
Just looking at your pic, it seems to have some squarish or sharp corners that are not pleasing to my eye. Personally, I would take a file to them and soften the edges into a radius. That's me. :grin:
Enjoy.

Jamie from Alberta · Nov 13, 2014

I recently installed one of these onto my Pedersoli Frontier and she showers sparks wonderfully.
ENJOY :wink:

Dean2 · Nov 18, 2014

Rifleman1776 said:
Hope it works well for you.
Just looking at your pic, it seems to have some squarish or sharp corners that are not pleasing to my eye. Personally, I would take a file to them and soften the edges into a radius. That's me. :grin:
Enjoy.

Given the appearance of the inletting around the lock I don't think I would recommend the op mess with the shape of the lock any but good to see he got a good working lock installed on the rifle now.

One other comment, the fellow that tuned the lock should have checked and set the sear engagement on the double trigger so it worked properly on receipt.

Rifleman1776 · Nov 18, 2014

I don't think I would recommend the op mess with the shape of the lock

I wouldn't touch the plate either. I was referring mainly to the cock which has some sharp lines that I personally find unflattering to the lock.

William O. · Nov 18, 2014

My good friend Mike Lange changed the breech plug on a Lyman trade rifle barrel from right to left, then mounted it in a custom Cherry wood stock along with a L&R lock that has never given me any trouble over hundreds of shots.

Heelerau · Dec 3, 2014

Dean2, I may have not told him about the set trigger, that aside I will find it interesting to refinish this lock. I will get a chance to shoot the rifle in the next week or so, will be interesting to see how well it goes, have a few rabbits in the garden which need knocking off !! Thanks again you blokes for your comments and interest

Cheers

Heelerau

condorsp · Dec 3, 2014

Does anyone have a link to tuning an L&R lock?

hoochiepapa · Dec 11, 2014

I have two rifles that I built with L&R percussion locks. Flint locks dropped right in, after I made and installed flash hole liners, and they work very well. L&R are quality locks in my opinion.

Nessmuck56 · Dec 11, 2014

Heelerau said:
Gentlemen,
finally got my L and R RPL drop in lock to replace the Russ Hamm lock. I had it sent to a chap in Minnesota who did an internal polish and lock tune up. I must say what a lovely job he did, and how well the lock sparks. Took some messing about to get it fitted, had to adjust the scear spring as the set trigger which has to be set to work would not trip the scear. I have flashed some priming charges, and goes off every time. I will now have to finish the outside of the lock at some point.* My thanks to Nessmuck for putting me onto Ron Gueldner for the lock tune up and many thanks to Bob Roller who gave me a nice set of inletting chisels, and to all who responded to my querie about these locks.

Cheers
Heelerau

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Glad it all worked out !!!

TerryK · Dec 14, 2014

I have used a RPL for 15 years and it never gave me any issues. Very good investment.

eaglesnester · Dec 15, 2014

I have an L&R Lock on my 54 Lyman Haawken with a white lightning touch hole liner. She sparks and fires the first time every time after time. If I get a miss fire it is my fault for allowing my flint to get dull by not occasionally check it and knapping when needed. I would say that my L&R lock is almost as reliable as any center fire rifle, cant say enough good stuff about my experience with the L&R lock.
Cheers&Tighter Groups: Eaglesnester

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Tom Compton · Dec 16, 2014

I have one of L&R's RPL locks in a Renegade stock I used putting together my .54 w GM barrel. Bought it direct from L&R. Did require a mite of wood in letting that even I accomplished. Made a rookie mistake when browning parts and got the frizzen hot. Called L&R sent It back. They re hardened the frizzen, mated a spare to the lock, and provided spare springs. Minimal charge and fast turn around. W a good sharp black English flint it looks like it would set a wet mule on fire. Good folks and good product.
TC

jamesthomas · Dec 16, 2014

I just have one, a Bailes lock, never have given me any problems at all, I'll be buying a L&R Queen Ann Lock next (16ga. Fowler), then I might get either another Bailes, or a Durs-Egg for my .45 cal. rifle.

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